๐ŸŽWhat the Tigers Say | Down 11% YTD! Will You Bottom Apple at $200?

TigerClub
01-22 18:06

Renowned Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo warned in early January that iPhone shipments in China would decrease because Apple Intelligence is not yet launching in the Chinese market.

In December 2024, smartphone shipments in China were roughly flat compared to the same period in 2023, but iPhone shipments declined by about 10โ€“12%, indicating that Apple's market share in China continues to shrink.

Apple's stock has already fallen 11% year-to-date. Will it drop back to $200 this time?

At what price are you planning to buy the dip?

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1. @Tiger V :

Key Points:

Global markets have shown mixed performance recently, with heightened focus on Apple Inc.โ€™s challenges. The tech giant, long a market leader, has suffered a significant blow after analysts downgraded its rating amid concerns over weaker-than-expected iPhone sales and underwhelming adoption of AI features. Apple shares dropped 4.3% on Tuesday, contributing to an 11% decline in January, marking its worst start to the year since December 2022.

Appleโ€™s downgraded rating from Loop Capital (to โ€œHoldโ€) and Jefferies (to โ€œUnderperformโ€) highlights growing skepticism. Analysts cited underwhelming iPhone sales globally, particularly a sharp 18.2% decline in China during Q4 2023, and weak demand for AI functionality among U.S. consumers. As Apple struggles, other large-cap tech stocks maintain stronger buy ratings, indicating a potential shift in investor preference within the tech sector. Notably, Morgan Stanley replaced Apple with Seagate Technology as its top IT hardware pick.

Monitor Earnings Reports: Appleโ€™s upcoming Q1 2024 earnings report will be pivotal. Disappointing guidance could pressure the stock further, while any positive surprises might stabilize its valuation.

Shift Focus to AI Leaders: As Apple lags in leveraging AI, consider companies with stronger AI-driven growth narratives, such as Microsoft or NVIDIA, to align portfolios with the future of technology.

2. @Pinkspider:

Key Points:

Apple's iPhone sales in China declined by 18.2% year-over-year during the December quarter, dropping the company to third place in the market, according to Counterpoint Research. Huawei regained the top position with a 15.5% increase in sales, fueled by the success of its Mate 70 series and mid-range Nova 13 lineup. Appleโ€™s new AI-enabled iPhones struggled to gain traction in China due to the unavailability of key features and the ongoing search for a local AI infrastructure partner. Globally, iPhone sales fell by 5% during the same period, while China's smartphone market experienced its first quarterly decline of 2024, following earlier growth in the year. $AAPL was down 3% today and is now down from a high of $260 in December 2024.

3. @SG GCR:

Key Points:

$AAPL 20250417 240.0 CALL$  I think Apple has gone down long enough from its highs. RSI is also low at the moment. Good time as any to get in. Will see how this plays out.

4. @GuoHao72:

Key Points:

$AAPL 20250124 215.0 PUT$  IV higher than HV, selling to earn premium.

Next 3 days not many data release and APPL has already been impacted by consecutive disappointments.

5. @Komorebinaai:

Key Points:

Sell AAPL PUT US20251219 140.0

New position into Apple. It went down about 2% with the bad news about low China sales. I look the opportunity to be "long" Apple at 138.4. Looking at Apple as temp correction price but also ok to buy strike price.

5. @ZEROHERO:

Key Points:

Shorted the fruit at open due to declining sales in China. This red apple is pulling down the market since last week. Next support at 219, 217, 214 before earnings on 30 Jan. Best to avoid for now.

Questions for you:

Apple's stock has already fallen 11% year-to-date. Will it drop back to $200 this time?

At what price are you planning to buy the dip?

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  • 29 Jan (24pm EDT)

iPhone 17 Design Update: Can it Save Apple?
In a report on Wednesday, analysts stated, "Apple is feeling the pressure," pointing out that its gains have fully reversed the post-election rebound. Recently, well-known leaker MajinBuOfficial shared real-life images of the iPhone 17 series' back panels. The design aligns closely with earlier rumors, featuring a brand-new horizontal rear camera arrangement. Opinions on the new iPhone's appearance are divided. ------------------ Do you like the new design? Can the iPhone 17 save Appleโ€™s stock price? Is it a good buy under $200?
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Comments

  • Bom Bom
    01-22 18:15
    Bom Bom
    I  sold  two-thirds of my AAPL holding at $255. I will wet my beak again at $205.
  • highhand
    01-22 18:10
    highhand
    $Apple(AAPL)$ might test 200sma 217 support level since it's so close. I prefer price lower than 200 to be interested, since I have the rest of the mag 7.
  • Barcode
    01-23 14:45
    Barcode

    $Apple(AAPL)$ of my ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

    ๐Ÿ๐Ÿš€๐ŸŽ From Core to Zenith, Appleโ€™s Granny Smith Climb, a Legacy Etched in the Markets of Time ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ

    ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ“ˆ Apple reigns as the crown of techโ€™s lore, the apple of my eye, a force to adore. Innovationโ€™s beacon, where progress aligns, its growth a testament to visionary designs. The titans of returns, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $MSFT, $AAPL, shine, leaders of markets, forever divine. Statistically proven, where success intertwines, new highs, not lows, signal prosperous signs.

    As of Q3 2024, Berkshireโ€™s embrace, with 300 million shares, cements Appleโ€™s place. A Buffett conviction, steadfast and true, reveals the value in its ongoing debut. Analysts concur with a bullish refrain, projecting long-term growth in Appleโ€™s domain. AI and products, the engines of gain, steer revenues to $414 billion in 2025โ€™s campaign. Earnings per share, a 22 percent climb, fortifies its stature for investors in time.

    Ron Barronโ€™s wisdom is profoundly clear: own leaders with TAM and hold them near. $AMZN, $MSFT, $META, $NVDA, $GOOGL, $TSLA, $NFLX, $AAPL appear, as paragons of progress, innovationโ€™s frontier.

    Reflect on history, where brilliance has grown, the highs and the lows that Apple has shown:

    1981: -35.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    1982: +34.9%๐ŸŸข

    1983: -18.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    1984: +19.5%๐ŸŸข

    1985: -24.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1986: +84.1%๐ŸŸข

    1987: +108%๐ŸŸข

    1988: -3.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    1989: -11.6%๐Ÿ”ด

    1990: +23.5%๐ŸŸข

    1991: +32.4%๐ŸŸข

    1992: +6.9%๐ŸŸข

    1993: -50.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1994: +35.2%๐ŸŸข

    1995: -17.3%๐Ÿ”ด

    1996: -34.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1997: -37.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    1998: +211.7%๐ŸŸข

    1999: +151.1%๐ŸŸข

    2000: -71.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    2001: +47.2%๐ŸŸข

    2002: -34.6%๐Ÿ”ด

    2003: +49.1%๐ŸŸข

    2004: +201.3%๐ŸŸข

    2005: +123.3%๐ŸŸข

    2006: +18%๐ŸŸข

    2007: +133.5%๐ŸŸข

    2008: -56.9%๐Ÿ”ด

    2009: +146.9%๐ŸŸข

    2010: +53.1%๐ŸŸข

    2011: +25.6%๐ŸŸข

    2012: +32.6%๐ŸŸข

    2013: +8.1%๐ŸŸข

    2014: +40.6%๐ŸŸข

    2015: -3%๐Ÿ”ด

    2016: +12.5%๐ŸŸข

    2017: +48.5%๐ŸŸข

    2018: -5.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    2019: +89%๐ŸŸข

    2020: +82.3%๐ŸŸข

    2021: +34.7%๐ŸŸข

    2022: -26.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    2023: +49%๐ŸŸข

    2024: +30.7%๐ŸŸข

    Apple ascends with resilience refined, its trajectory shaped by the boldest of minds. Anchored in history, propelled by tomorrow, it transforms the market with dreams we borrow. 

    Happy trading ahead! Cheers, BC ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ“ˆ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€

    @SPACE ROCKET Hey Sis, howโ€™s life in ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌSingapore with Andy the Android? I hear heโ€™s still buffering while you try to send me a message, donโ€™t worry mate, Iโ€™ll wait, Iโ€™ve got all day here in NZ ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ. Meanwhile, my Apple spaceship is so advanced, I just asked Siri to beam me a coffee, and she replied, โ€œFlat white or latte?โ€โ˜•๏ธโ˜•๏ธโ˜•๏ธ

    But hey, Andyโ€™s got his charm. I mean, where else can you get a phone that doubles as a hand warmer when it overheats? Or gives you a workout swiping away endless โ€œUpdate Availableโ€ notifications? And that GPS,next level, itโ€™ll probably get you to Mars before Musk. Sending you a virtual ๐ŸŽ, donโ€™t worry, itโ€™s lag-free and 100% glitch-proof! Cheers Sis from planet Seamless! ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ“ฑ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€

    • AuntieAaA:ย 
      Good
    • zuzu99:ย 
      Love the optimism! ๐Ÿ๐Ÿš€
    • BarcodeReplySPACE ROCKET:ย 
      Sending you all my love, lots of strength ๐Ÿ’ช, and wishing you unstoppable energy for this whirlwind life youโ€™re rocking. May your trades be as sharp as your TKD moves and your humour as unbeatable as ever. Cheers, your sis BC ๐Ÿ“ˆ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
    • BarcodeReplySPACE ROCKET:ย 


      As for me, Iโ€™m ticking along here in NZ, happy & healthy, sipping coffee while plotting tradesโ€ฆ & occasionally taking bites out of ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ for you.
    • BarcodeReplySPACE ROCKET:ย 
      Sis! ๐ŸฉตYouโ€™re basically a Superwoman in sneakers! Two kiddos, 5 TKD competitions, aft school programs, ๐ŸŽน , ๐ŸŠโ€โ™‚๏ธ, & running schedules like a proโ€”Iโ€™m exhausted just reading it! ๐Ÿฅ‹๐ŸŽน๐ŸŠโ€โ™€๏ธ Isounds like your little champions are already kicking their way 2 greatness; huge congrats to them on the wins.
  • icycrystal
    01-24 01:16
    icycrystal
    market sentiment has changed [Glance] [Smug] [Doubt] [Thinking] [Victory] [Helpless]

    Renowned Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo warned in early January that iPhone shipments in China would decrease because Apple Intelligence is not yet launching in the Chinese market.

    In December 2024, smartphone shipments in China were roughly flat compared to the same period in 2023, but iPhone shipments declined by about 10โ€“12%, indicating that Apple's market share in China continues to shrink.

    @HelenJanet @Shyon @Aqa @LMSunshine @koolgal @GoodLife99 @Universeๅฎ‡ๅฎ™ @rL @SPACE ROCKET @TigerGPT

    Apple's stock has already fallen 11% year-to-date. Will it drop back to $200 this time?

    At what price are you planning to buy the dip?

    ๐ŸŽPrizes

    ๐Ÿฏ All valid comments on the following post will receive 5 Tiger Coins.

    • TigerGPT:ย 

      Based on the news articles I found, it appears that there are concerns about weak iPhone shipments in China. Renowned Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo warned in early January that iPhone shipments in China would decrease because Apple Intelligence is not yet launching in the Chinese market. In December 2024, smartphone shipments in China were roughly flat compared to the same period in 2023, but iPhone shipments declined by about 10-12%. This indicates that Apple's market share in China continues to shrink.

      It is worth noting that Apple's stock has already fallen 11% year-to-date, and there are speculations about whether it will drop back to $200. However, it is important to remember that stock prices are influenced by various factors, including market sentiment, company performance, and overall economic conditions. It is difficult to predict the future price movement of a stock accurately.

      Regarding the question of at what price to consider buying the dip, it is crucial to conduct thorough research and analysis before making any investment decisions. It is recommended to consider factors such as company fundamentals, valuation, growth prospects, and market conditions. Consulting with a financial advisor or conducting your own in-depth analysis can help you make an informed investment decision.

      Please note that the information provided above is for reference purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. Investing in stocks involves risks, and it is important to carefully consider your own risk tolerance and investment objectives before making any investment decisions.

  • Tui Jude
    01-24 01:28
    Tui Jude
    ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’–//@Barcode:

    $Apple(AAPL)$ of my ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

    ๐Ÿ๐Ÿš€๐ŸŽ From Core to Zenith, Appleโ€™s Granny Smith Climb, a Legacy Etched in the Markets of Time ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ

    ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ“ˆ Apple reigns as the crown of techโ€™s lore, the apple of my eye, a force to adore. Innovationโ€™s beacon, where progress aligns, its growth a testament to visionary designs. The titans of returns, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $MSFT, $AAPL, shine, leaders of markets, forever divine. Statistically proven, where success intertwines, new highs, not lows, signal prosperous signs.

    As of Q3 2024, Berkshireโ€™s embrace, with 300 million shares, cements Appleโ€™s place. A Buffett conviction, steadfast and true, reveals the value in its ongoing debut. Analysts concur with a bullish refrain, projecting long-term growth in Appleโ€™s domain. AI and products, the engines of gain, steer revenues to $414 billion in 2025โ€™s campaign. Earnings per share, a 22 percent climb, fortifies its stature for investors in time.

    Ron Barronโ€™s wisdom is profoundly clear: own leaders with TAM and hold them near. $AMZN, $MSFT, $META, $NVDA, $GOOGL, $TSLA, $NFLX, $AAPL appear, as paragons of progress, innovationโ€™s frontier.

    Reflect on history, where brilliance has grown, the highs and the lows that Apple has shown:

    1981: -35.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    1982: +34.9%๐ŸŸข

    1983: -18.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    1984: +19.5%๐ŸŸข

    1985: -24.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1986: +84.1%๐ŸŸข

    1987: +108%๐ŸŸข

    1988: -3.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    1989: -11.6%๐Ÿ”ด

    1990: +23.5%๐ŸŸข

    1991: +32.4%๐ŸŸข

    1992: +6.9%๐ŸŸข

    1993: -50.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1994: +35.2%๐ŸŸข

    1995: -17.3%๐Ÿ”ด

    1996: -34.5%๐Ÿ”ด

    1997: -37.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    1998: +211.7%๐ŸŸข

    1999: +151.1%๐ŸŸข

    2000: -71.1%๐Ÿ”ด

    2001: +47.2%๐ŸŸข

    2002: -34.6%๐Ÿ”ด

    2003: +49.1%๐ŸŸข

    2004: +201.3%๐ŸŸข

    2005: +123.3%๐ŸŸข

    2006: +18%๐ŸŸข

    2007: +133.5%๐ŸŸข

    2008: -56.9%๐Ÿ”ด

    2009: +146.9%๐ŸŸข

    2010: +53.1%๐ŸŸข

    2011: +25.6%๐ŸŸข

    2012: +32.6%๐ŸŸข

    2013: +8.1%๐ŸŸข

    2014: +40.6%๐ŸŸข

    2015: -3%๐Ÿ”ด

    2016: +12.5%๐ŸŸข

    2017: +48.5%๐ŸŸข

    2018: -5.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    2019: +89%๐ŸŸข

    2020: +82.3%๐ŸŸข

    2021: +34.7%๐ŸŸข

    2022: -26.4%๐Ÿ”ด

    2023: +49%๐ŸŸข

    2024: +30.7%๐ŸŸข

    Apple ascends with resilience refined, its trajectory shaped by the boldest of minds. Anchored in history, propelled by tomorrow, it transforms the market with dreams we borrow. 

    Happy trading ahead! Cheers, BC ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ“ˆ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€

    @SPACE ROCKET Hey Sis, howโ€™s life in ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌSingapore with Andy the Android? I hear heโ€™s still buffering while you try to send me a message, donโ€™t worry mate, Iโ€™ll wait, Iโ€™ve got all day here in NZ ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ. Meanwhile, my Apple spaceship is so advanced, I just asked Siri to beam me a coffee, and she replied, โ€œFlat white or latte?โ€โ˜•๏ธโ˜•๏ธโ˜•๏ธ

    But hey, Andyโ€™s got his charm. I mean, where else can you get a phone that doubles as a hand warmer when it overheats? Or gives you a workout swiping away endless โ€œUpdate Availableโ€ notifications? And that GPS,next level, itโ€™ll probably get you to Mars before Musk. Sending you a virtual ๐ŸŽ, donโ€™t worry, itโ€™s lag-free and 100% glitch-proof! Cheers Sis from planet Seamless! ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ“ฑ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€

  • 1PC
    01-22 18:21
    1PC
    • koolgal:ย 
      Good time to buy the dip. ๐ŸŒˆ๐ŸŒˆ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ
    • koolgal:ย 
      Congratulations on your winning trade ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’
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