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2024-12-31

Such a loser and sour grape

Tesla Stock Surge Runs Up Against a Potential Annual Sales Drop

2024-12-31

Sour grape

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2024-12-30

Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?

Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?

2024-12-28

So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....

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2024-12-28

Sour grape

Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?

2024-12-27

Sour grape.....

Analyst: It’s Hard to Go Long Tesla (TSLA) Because ‘It’s All On Promises’

2024-12-26

Pls check the price first before posting this. Wtf u are

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2024-12-25

Another sour grapes who missed the Tesla big boat......what a loser and now saying bad things abt Tesla. FU

Should You Forget Tesla and Buy 2 Artificial Intelligence (AI) Stocks Right Now?

2024-12-23

Nonsense article. If aliens attacked earth does anything else matters??????

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2024-12-23

So many many many sour grapes around

Tesla Record Deliveries Expected. This Is Why It Probably Doesn't Matter For TSLA

2024-12-23

Cos the sky is very high the bird shit on yr eyes @JC888: Hi, I really don't know why this post got so little traction. Honestly thought it was a candid and different views on both Nvidia and Amazon as they morphed into something that's different from their former self (not that it is a bad thing).If you have a bit of time, come read it and help to Repost so that more will know. Like to encourage me to prod further ok. Thanks and Merry Christmas !

@JC888:NVDA vs AMZN : AI Battle Heats Up & Fast !

2024-12-22

What a sour grape.......

Is Tesla a Millionaire Maker?

2024-12-12

Another sour grape

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2024-12-11

Mr Short, we know u missed the boat. Pls don't sour grape. We feel u

After Tuesday's Close Above $400, How Overbought is Tesla Stock?

2024-12-07

So many sour grapes around....

Bernstein Analyst Assigns Sell Rating on Tesla, Inc. (TSLA), Citing Risks in Robotaxi Project and Overvaluation

2024-12-02

Dr rck, no worries. Ignore those sour grapes. They misswd the boat. Let them whine. The more they whine the more the price will go up

Up 38%, Is Tesla Stock a Buy?

2024-12-01

Try harder, pls

Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?

2024-12-01

Typical sour grapes write up

Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?

2024-12-01

Shit stirrer......and sour grapes

Americans may think twice when Musk and Ramaswamy try to break the things they value

2024-11-30

Another sour grape who missed the boat

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That would set a new quarterly record for Tesla, but the company would need to sell about 4,600 more cars to make good on its forecast for slight growth in 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/276a2e1633dadfa4ea8555a989b558a7\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"641\" tg-height=\"378\"/></p><p>Tesla has a lot riding on the production and delivery figures it’s expected to report on Jan. 2.</p><p>The carmaker added more than $733 billion in market capitalization from Election Day through mid-December, when its valuation peaked at $1.54 trillion. While investors have been betting Musk’s emergence as the marquee donor to President-elect Trump will pay dividends for his companies, an annual sales dip could lead to some second-guessing.</p><p>Trump’s policy prescriptions are, after all, far from a slam dunk for Tesla. While a federal framework for autonomous vehicle deployment is cause for optimism, it’s not clear the company’s technology is ready. Trump’s advisers also are recommending that he repeal electric-vehicle subsidies and roll back fuel-economy and tailpipe-pollution regulations that generate significant revenue for Tesla.</p><p>“This number is a total wild card,” Gene Munster, managing partner of growth-investment firm Deepwater Asset Management, said of Tesla’s fourth-quarter deliveries. Munster is wary about Musk distancing himself from politically left-leaning consumers and embracing fans of Trump, who haven’t been buying EVs. That said, the prospect of tax credits going away soon could “really juice” Tesla’s sales, he said.</p><h3 id=\"id_3450343167\">EV Slowdown</h3><p>Musk has maintained throughout the year that Tesla is between two “growth waves” and repeatedly predicted that autonomy will lead to a next leg of expansion. The first touched off when the company began rolling out its most affordable EV, the Model 3 sedan, and followed that up with the smash-hit Model Y sport utility vehicle.</p><p>Whether Tesla manages to eke out any growth or not in 2024, the company lost significant momentum in the midst of a broader slowdown in the global EV market.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dbf477aaae860c8b90ff8876756866ba\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"636\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>Even as China’s BYD Co. continued its ascent up the sales charts, the company increasingly relied on the strength of its plug-in hybrid lineup. Volkswagen AG, Mercedes-Benz Group AG and Volvo Car AB, meanwhile, were among the automakers to scale back their EV objectives for the coming years at some point in 2024.</p><p>In the US, Ford Motor Co.’s plug-in vehicle business is bracing for a $5 billion annual loss. 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When Tesla last reported quarterly earnings in October, the CEO said his best guess was that the company could increase sales by 20% to 30% next year.</p><p>That outlook rests, in part, on Tesla launching more affordable models in the first half of next year that the company has yet to identify.</p><p>Chris McNally, an analyst at Evercore ISI, wrote in a report to clients Monday that his best guess is Tesla will offer new variants of the Model 3 and Y that are $4,000 to $5,000 cheaper through an improved electrical architecture and “de-contenting,” a reference to using lower-cost parts or removing certain components or features.</p><p>Tesla has already gotten a jump on its affordability drive by closing the year with a flood of deals, ranging from cut-rate financing to years of free charging and cheaper leases.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/36b22fd0b2907d8534fb9c64ed689d78\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"652\" tg-height=\"365\"/></p><p>Musk’s 2025 sales growth forecast “is likely to prove aggressive,” according to Garrett Nelson, an analyst at CFRA Research.</p><p>“We see headwinds facing EV sales from the possible combination of a stronger dollar, higher domestic oil production from easing regulations, and lower oil prices,” Nelson wrote in a Dec. 2 report. “After a year in which Tesla’s vehicle sales growth will likely be flattish, we see its volumes growing only 10%-15% in 2025, or only half as strong as its guidance.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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That would set a new quarterly record for Tesla, but the company would need to sell about 4,600 more cars to make good on its forecast for slight growth in 2024.Tesla has a lot riding on the production and delivery figures it’s expected to report on Jan. 2.The carmaker added more than $733 billion in market capitalization from Election Day through mid-December, when its valuation peaked at $1.54 trillion. While investors have been betting Musk’s emergence as the marquee donor to President-elect Trump will pay dividends for his companies, an annual sales dip could lead to some second-guessing.Trump’s policy prescriptions are, after all, far from a slam dunk for Tesla. While a federal framework for autonomous vehicle deployment is cause for optimism, it’s not clear the company’s technology is ready. Trump’s advisers also are recommending that he repeal electric-vehicle subsidies and roll back fuel-economy and tailpipe-pollution regulations that generate significant revenue for Tesla.“This number is a total wild card,” Gene Munster, managing partner of growth-investment firm Deepwater Asset Management, said of Tesla’s fourth-quarter deliveries. Munster is wary about Musk distancing himself from politically left-leaning consumers and embracing fans of Trump, who haven’t been buying EVs. That said, the prospect of tax credits going away soon could “really juice” Tesla’s sales, he said.EV SlowdownMusk has maintained throughout the year that Tesla is between two “growth waves” and repeatedly predicted that autonomy will lead to a next leg of expansion. The first touched off when the company began rolling out its most affordable EV, the Model 3 sedan, and followed that up with the smash-hit Model Y sport utility vehicle.Whether Tesla manages to eke out any growth or not in 2024, the company lost significant momentum in the midst of a broader slowdown in the global EV market.Even as China’s BYD Co. continued its ascent up the sales charts, the company increasingly relied on the strength of its plug-in hybrid lineup. Volkswagen AG, Mercedes-Benz Group AG and Volvo Car AB, meanwhile, were among the automakers to scale back their EV objectives for the coming years at some point in 2024.In the US, Ford Motor Co.’s plug-in vehicle business is bracing for a $5 billion annual loss. And in Japan, a potential partnership between Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. to jointly work on software development, batteries and other EV components has given way to considerations of a full-blown combination under a joint holding company.Musk’s OutlookEven against this backdrop, Musk has offered an upbeat view on 2025. When Tesla last reported quarterly earnings in October, the CEO said his best guess was that the company could increase sales by 20% to 30% next year.That outlook rests, in part, on Tesla launching more affordable models in the first half of next year that the company has yet to identify.Chris McNally, an analyst at Evercore ISI, wrote in a report to clients Monday that his best guess is Tesla will offer new variants of the Model 3 and Y that are $4,000 to $5,000 cheaper through an improved electrical architecture and “de-contenting,” a reference to using lower-cost parts or removing certain components or features.Tesla has already gotten a jump on its affordability drive by closing the year with a flood of deals, ranging from cut-rate financing to years of free charging and cheaper leases.Musk’s 2025 sales growth forecast “is likely to prove aggressive,” according to Garrett Nelson, an analyst at CFRA Research.“We see headwinds facing EV sales from the possible combination of a stronger dollar, higher domestic oil production from easing regulations, and lower oil prices,” Nelson wrote in a Dec. 2 report. “After a year in which Tesla’s vehicle sales growth will likely be flattish, we see its volumes growing only 10%-15% in 2025, or only half as strong as its guidance.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":515,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":387574730338736,"gmtCreate":1735653184718,"gmtModify":1735653188210,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sour grape","listText":"Sour grape","text":"Sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/387574730338736","repostId":"2495269789","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":455,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":387129327841408,"gmtCreate":1735525057893,"gmtModify":1735525061571,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","listText":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","text":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/387129327841408","repostId":"2494483318","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494483318","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735524000,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494483318?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-30 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494483318","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.Investors are excited about the company's future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.Shares of Tesla declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed i","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.</p></li><li><p>Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.</p></li><li><p>Investors are excited about the company&#39;s future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.</p></li></ul><p>Shares of <strong>Tesla</strong> declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it&#39;s now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.</p><p>Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump&#39;s election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration&#39;s policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.</p><p>With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla&#39;s stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?</p><h2 id=\"id_2721806520\">Tesla&#39;s EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024</h2><p>The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn&#39;t. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% <em>drop</em> from the same period last year. That puts Tesla&#39;s deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.</p><p>That&#39;s a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company&#39;s total revenue. If this part of its business isn&#39;t performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).</p><p>As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can&#39;t happen if sales aren&#39;t keeping up.</p><p>The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like <strong>Ford </strong>and <strong>General Motors </strong>slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.</p><p>Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. <strong>BYD</strong>, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can&#39;t compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a3e1eccd0d9264e1c4caf8f2deb2b939\" alt=\"Image source: Tesla.\" title=\"Image source: Tesla.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Image source: Tesla.</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3123686335\">Deliveries aren&#39;t the main thing driving Tesla stock</h2><p>You might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company&#39;s full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla&#39;s new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.</p><p>It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won&#39;t come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla&#39;s FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.</p><p>Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.</p><p>FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla&#39;s passenger EVs, but it isn&#39;t actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.</p><p>Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood&#39;s Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That&#39;s why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.</p><h2 id=\"id_3272353205\">Tesla stock is extremely expensive right now</h2><p>Before investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company&#39;s trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it&#39;s more than twice as expensive as <strong>Nvidia</strong>!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2599b164d8622f793c8d0e6ec76774f4\" alt=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" title=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.</span></p><p>The <strong>Nasdaq-100</strong> technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it&#39;s home to most of Tesla&#39;s big-tech peers, it really puts the company&#39;s sky-high valuation into perspective.</p><p>As I highlighted earlier, Tesla&#39;s deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.</p><p>Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it&#39;s unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won&#39;t enter mass production until 2026.</p><p>As a result, it&#39;s extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don&#39;t own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump's election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration's policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla's stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?Tesla's EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn't. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% drop from the same period last year. That puts Tesla's deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.That's a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company's total revenue. If this part of its business isn't performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can't happen if sales aren't keeping up.The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like Ford and General Motors slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. BYD, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can't compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.Image source: Tesla.Deliveries aren't the main thing driving Tesla stockYou might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company's full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla's new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won't come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla's FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla's passenger EVs, but it isn't actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood's Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That's why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.Tesla stock is extremely expensive right nowBefore investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company's trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it's more than twice as expensive as Nvidia!TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.The Nasdaq-100 technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it's home to most of Tesla's big-tech peers, it really puts the company's sky-high valuation into perspective.As I highlighted earlier, Tesla's deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it's unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won't enter mass production until 2026.As a result, it's extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don't own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":698,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386655131906528,"gmtCreate":1735408351841,"gmtModify":1735443164506,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","listText":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","text":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386655131906528","repostId":"2495349262","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2495349262","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735405213,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2495349262?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-29 01:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... He Wasn't Born In This Country'","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2495349262","media":"Benzinga","summary":"President-elect Donald Trump has addressed speculation about Tesla Inc.  CEO Elon Musk’s growing political influence.What Happened: On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”Why It Matters: Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson's  proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.Democrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.This article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe .","content":"<html><body><img height=\"675\" src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/RscuLPtTBu6lYVLsngsC_g--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/Benzinga/75d9fe46e7a67d2bc8638effd71f9f2c\" width=\"1200\"/>\n<p>President-elect <strong>Donald Trump</strong> has addressed speculation about <strong>Tesla Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) CEO <strong>Elon Musk’s</strong> growing political influence.</p>\n<p><strong>What Happened:</strong> On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.</p>\n<p>“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”</p>\n<p><strong>Don't Miss:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>The average American couple has saved this much money for retirement —<strong> </strong><strong>How do you compare</strong>?</strong></li>\n<li><strong>Can you guess how many Americans successfully retire with $1,000,000 saved?<strong> The percentage may shock you</strong>.</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Why It Matters:</strong> Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker <strong>Mike Johnson's</strong> (R-La.) proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.</p>\n<p>Democrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.</p>\n<p>A separate NBC report indicated that the Tesla CEO’s increasing presence in political circles has raised concerns among national security experts about potential conflicts of interest, given his extensive business dealings with foreign governments.</p>\n<p>His companies maintain significant government contracts, with <strong>SpaceX</strong> providing critical services to NASA and the Pentagon.</p>\n<p><strong>See Also: Maker of the $60,000 foldable home has 3 factory buildings, 600+ houses built, and big plans to solve housing —<strong> </strong><strong>you can become an investor for $0.80 per share today.</strong></strong></p>\n<p>Tesla’s substantial manufacturing presence in China, where the company operates its Gigafactory Shanghai facility, has also drawn particular scrutiny.</p>\n<p>The company currently dominates the U.S. electric vehicle market with nearly 50% market share.</p>\n<p>Sen. <strong>Ben Cardin</strong> (D-Md.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, expressed concern about Musk’s dual roles.</p>\n<p>“I think he has incredible conflicts,” Cardin told the publication. “His association with the president-elect has already profited him as far as his personal assets are concerned.”</p>\n<p><strong>Read Next:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Many are using retirement income calculators to check if they’re on pace —<strong> </strong><strong>here’s a breakdown on what’s behind this formula.</strong></strong></li>\n<li><strong>Can you guess how many retire with a $5,000,000 nest egg? <strong>The percentage may shock you</strong>.</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<p>Up Next: Transform your trading with Benzinga Edge's one-of-a-kind market trade ideas and tools. <strong>Click now to access unique insights</strong> that can set you ahead in today's competitive market.</p>\n<p>Get the latest stock analysis from Benzinga?</p>\n<ul></ul>\n<p>This article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... 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He Wasn't Born In This Country'\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-29 01:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-fires-back-critics-denies-170013378.html><strong>Benzinga</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>President-elect Donald Trump has addressed speculation about Tesla Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) CEO Elon Musk’s growing political influence.\nWhat Happened: On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-fires-back-critics-denies-170013378.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-fires-back-critics-denies-170013378.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5f26f4a48f9cb3e29be4d71d3ba8c038","article_id":"2495349262","content_text":"President-elect Donald Trump has addressed speculation about Tesla Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) CEO Elon Musk’s growing political influence.\nWhat Happened: On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.\n“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”\nDon't Miss:\n\nThe average American couple has saved this much money for retirement — How do you compare?\nCan you guess how many Americans successfully retire with $1,000,000 saved? The percentage may shock you.\n\nWhy It Matters: Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson's (R-La.) proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.\nDemocrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.\nA separate NBC report indicated that the Tesla CEO’s increasing presence in political circles has raised concerns among national security experts about potential conflicts of interest, given his extensive business dealings with foreign governments.\nHis companies maintain significant government contracts, with SpaceX providing critical services to NASA and the Pentagon.\nSee Also: Maker of the $60,000 foldable home has 3 factory buildings, 600+ houses built, and big plans to solve housing — you can become an investor for $0.80 per share today.\nTesla’s substantial manufacturing presence in China, where the company operates its Gigafactory Shanghai facility, has also drawn particular scrutiny.\nThe company currently dominates the U.S. electric vehicle market with nearly 50% market share.\nSen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, expressed concern about Musk’s dual roles.\n“I think he has incredible conflicts,” Cardin told the publication. “His association with the president-elect has already profited him as far as his personal assets are concerned.”\nRead Next:\n\nMany are using retirement income calculators to check if they’re on pace — here’s a breakdown on what’s behind this formula.\nCan you guess how many retire with a $5,000,000 nest egg? The percentage may shock you.\n\nUp Next: Transform your trading with Benzinga Edge's one-of-a-kind market trade ideas and tools. Click now to access unique insights that can set you ahead in today's competitive market.\nGet the latest stock analysis from Benzinga?\n\nThis article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... He Wasn't Born In This Country' originally appeared on Benzinga.com","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":782,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386546176880832,"gmtCreate":1735382687589,"gmtModify":1735382691562,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sour grape","listText":"Sour grape","text":"Sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386546176880832","repostId":"2494483318","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494483318","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735524000,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494483318?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-30 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494483318","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.Investors are excited about the company's future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.Shares of Tesla declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed i","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.</p></li><li><p>Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.</p></li><li><p>Investors are excited about the company&#39;s future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.</p></li></ul><p>Shares of <strong>Tesla</strong> declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it&#39;s now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.</p><p>Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump&#39;s election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration&#39;s policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.</p><p>With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla&#39;s stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?</p><h2 id=\"id_2721806520\">Tesla&#39;s EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024</h2><p>The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn&#39;t. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% <em>drop</em> from the same period last year. That puts Tesla&#39;s deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.</p><p>That&#39;s a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company&#39;s total revenue. If this part of its business isn&#39;t performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).</p><p>As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can&#39;t happen if sales aren&#39;t keeping up.</p><p>The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like <strong>Ford </strong>and <strong>General Motors </strong>slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.</p><p>Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. <strong>BYD</strong>, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can&#39;t compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a3e1eccd0d9264e1c4caf8f2deb2b939\" alt=\"Image source: Tesla.\" title=\"Image source: Tesla.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Image source: Tesla.</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3123686335\">Deliveries aren&#39;t the main thing driving Tesla stock</h2><p>You might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company&#39;s full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla&#39;s new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.</p><p>It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won&#39;t come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla&#39;s FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.</p><p>Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.</p><p>FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla&#39;s passenger EVs, but it isn&#39;t actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.</p><p>Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood&#39;s Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That&#39;s why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.</p><h2 id=\"id_3272353205\">Tesla stock is extremely expensive right now</h2><p>Before investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company&#39;s trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it&#39;s more than twice as expensive as <strong>Nvidia</strong>!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2599b164d8622f793c8d0e6ec76774f4\" alt=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" title=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.</span></p><p>The <strong>Nasdaq-100</strong> technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it&#39;s home to most of Tesla&#39;s big-tech peers, it really puts the company&#39;s sky-high valuation into perspective.</p><p>As I highlighted earlier, Tesla&#39;s deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.</p><p>Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it&#39;s unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won&#39;t enter mass production until 2026.</p><p>As a result, it&#39;s extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don&#39;t own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump's election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration's policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla's stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?Tesla's EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn't. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% drop from the same period last year. That puts Tesla's deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.That's a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company's total revenue. If this part of its business isn't performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can't happen if sales aren't keeping up.The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like Ford and General Motors slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. BYD, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can't compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.Image source: Tesla.Deliveries aren't the main thing driving Tesla stockYou might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company's full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla's new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won't come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla's FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla's passenger EVs, but it isn't actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood's Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That's why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.Tesla stock is extremely expensive right nowBefore investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company's trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it's more than twice as expensive as Nvidia!TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.The Nasdaq-100 technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it's home to most of Tesla's big-tech peers, it really puts the company's sky-high valuation into perspective.As I highlighted earlier, Tesla's deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it's unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won't enter mass production until 2026.As a result, it's extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don't own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":492,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386153283023336,"gmtCreate":1735316347836,"gmtModify":1735316351484,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sour grape.....","listText":"Sour grape.....","text":"Sour grape.....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386153283023336","repostId":"2494820973","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494820973","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735313293,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494820973?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-27 23:28","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Analyst: It’s Hard to Go Long Tesla (TSLA) Because ‘It’s All On Promises’","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494820973","media":"Insider Monkey","summary":"We recently published a list of 10 Buzzing AI Stocks on Latest Analyst Ratings and News. In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla Inc  stands against other buzzing AI stocks on latest analyst ratings and news.CJ Muse, Cantor Fitzgerald analyst, explained in a latest program on CNBC that the AI investment cycle is different from the ones we have seen in the past. Muse believes major technology companies investing billions in AI are generating “meaningful” free cash flows.“This cycle is unlike any other. I think most investors look back to the advent of the internet and how long the internet infrastructure investment cycle played out. But this one’s very different. The companies making the investments, predominantly the hyperscalers, are generating meaningful free cash flow despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars building out AI. Let’s be clear: this is existential for these companies as they all try to get to AGI. I think this is a multi-year investment cycle","content":"<html><body><p>We recently published a list of <strong>10 Buzzing AI Stocks on Latest Analyst Ratings and News</strong>. In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against other buzzing AI stocks on latest analyst ratings and news.</p>\n<p>CJ Muse, Cantor Fitzgerald analyst, explained in a latest program on CNBC that the AI investment cycle is different from the ones we have seen in the past. Muse believes major technology companies investing billions in AI are generating “meaningful” free cash flows.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“This cycle is unlike any other. I think most investors look back to the advent of the internet and how long the internet infrastructure investment cycle played out. But this one’s very different. The companies making the investments, predominantly the hyperscalers, are generating meaningful free cash flow despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars building out AI. Let’s be clear: this is existential for these companies as they all try to get to AGI. I think this is a multi-year investment cycle.”</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>The analyst talked about the latest AI model released by OpenAI and said the race is now to reach artificial general intelligence (AGI) and companies would require more and more computing power to improve the reasoning capabilities of AI systems.</p>\n<p><b>READ ALSO </b><b>7 Best Stocks to Buy For Long-Term</b><b> and </b><b>8 Cheap Jim Cramer Stocks to Invest In</b></p>\n<p>For this article, we picked 10 AI stocks currently making headlines on the back of latest analyst ratings and important news. With each stock, we have mentioned its hedge fund sentiment. Why are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points<b> (</b><b>see more details here</b><b>).</b></p>\n<img height=\"667\" src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/M84dgsDA4D7O9MngiZOT0g--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insidermonkey.com/2f2fcaf3767fec539510d6aecc2a51c9\" width=\"1000\"/> Jia Li / Shutterstock.com \n<h3>Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)</h3>\n<p><b><i>Number of Hedge Fund Investors: 99</i></b><b><i></i></b></p>\n<p>Danny Moses, Moses Ventures founder, explained in a latest program on CNBC why he is no longer short on Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA). However, the analyst also said it’s hard to go long on the stock because it’s based on “all promises.”</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“The first quarter this year, it had just started to trade on fundamentals for the first time in a long time. It was hanging around $140 to $150, right? So you felt like, okay, the quarter was bad, right? What happened? The promise of Autonomous Day in August, which ended up getting pushed out to October. He flies to China to get some regulatory relief on certain things, and lo and behold, attaches himself to Trump to make all the other stuff go away.</p>\n<p>When the story moves from non-fundamental to technical and those kinds of things, that’s when I leave a story. We talk about it on the podcast a lot, giving updates there. But to people that are listening now, it’s very difficult, certainly, to short a name that’s not trading on fundamentals. It’s also hard to go long a name when it’s all on promises.”</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Looking beyond the recent spike in Tesla shares amid Donald Trump’s victory, Tesla’s fundamentals are challenged. How? Tesla Inc’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) key robotaxi event was short on details. Notably absent was the discussion of a “more affordable” model that Musk had previously mentioned to boost confidence in Tesla’s vehicle sales growth outlook.</p>\n<p>What about the $30,000 price tag claim?</p>\n<p>Musk has indicated that the Cybercab will have a production cost of approximately $30,000. Operating within the robotaxi fleet is projected to cost around $0.20 per mile. With a production cost of $30,000, the retail price of the Cybercab is likely to exceed this figure. For instance, if the Cybercab is priced at $30,000 per unit, that translates to $15,000 per seat. In contrast, the average price per passenger seat in Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)’s most affordable long-range RWD Model 3—factoring in full self-driving (FSD) licensing—is under $10,000 ($29,990 post-incentive vehicle price plus $8,000 for the FSD license, divided by four passenger seats). Regarding operational costs, while the Cybercab is expected to cost $0.20 per mile, charging the Model 3 is estimated at under $0.10 per mile, leaving a significant margin to cover maintenance and downtime.</p>\n<p>There is a lot of hype around Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) robo taxis but many believe they will not be enough to fix the company’s long-term challenges.</p>\n<p>What are these challenges?</p>\n<p>Tesla Inc’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) product lineup is showing signs of stagnation, with over 95% of sales still coming from the Model 3 and Model Y. Meanwhile, competitors are rolling out more advanced models. Even Rivian’s CEO suggested Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) could be nearing market saturation for these models. According to Reuters, Tesla’s market share in Europe is slipping as legacy automakers like BMW post stronger sales. Chinese competitor BYD is also gaining ground in Europe, despite talk of tariffs.</p>\n<p>Polen Focus Growth Strategy stated the following regarding Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) in its Q3 2024 investor letter:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“The largest relative detractors during the quarter were Apple, Airbnb, and Tesla (not owned). We’ve spoken at length about our rationale for not owning <b>Tesla, Inc</b>. (NASDAQ:TSLA). In short, the market seems to be pricing in a lot of positive optionality for this company in the near-to-intermediate term (and particularly a fully autonomous fleet of electric vehicles in the medium term). What exists today is an automobile manufacturer limited to the higher-income segment that is increasingly challenged to sell vehicles when interest rates are not zero. We continue to question the company’s long-term growth profile and governance.”</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Overall, TSLA <strong><b>ranks 6th</b></strong> on our list of buzzing AI stocks on latest analyst ratings and news. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA, our conviction lies in the belief that under the radar AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns, and doing so within a shorter timeframe. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the <b>cheapest AI stock</b><b>.</b></p>\n<p><strong><b>READ NEXT:</b></strong> <strong><b>8 Best Wide Moat Stocks to Buy Now</b></strong><strong><b> and</b></strong><strong><b> 30 Most Important AI Stocks According to BlackRock</b></strong></p>\n<p>Disclosure: None. This article is originally published at <strong><b>Insider Monkey</b></strong><strong><b>.</b></strong></p></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Analyst: It’s Hard to Go Long Tesla (TSLA) Because ‘It’s All On Promises’</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAnalyst: It’s Hard to Go Long Tesla (TSLA) Because ‘It’s All On Promises’\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-27 23:28 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/analyst-hard-long-tesla-tsla-152813858.html><strong>Insider Monkey</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>We recently published a list of 10 Buzzing AI Stocks on Latest Analyst Ratings and News. 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In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against other buzzing AI stocks on latest analyst ratings and news.\nCJ Muse, Cantor Fitzgerald analyst, explained in a latest program on CNBC that the AI investment cycle is different from the ones we have seen in the past. Muse believes major technology companies investing billions in AI are generating “meaningful” free cash flows.\n\n“This cycle is unlike any other. I think most investors look back to the advent of the internet and how long the internet infrastructure investment cycle played out. But this one’s very different. The companies making the investments, predominantly the hyperscalers, are generating meaningful free cash flow despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars building out AI. Let’s be clear: this is existential for these companies as they all try to get to AGI. I think this is a multi-year investment cycle.”\n\nThe analyst talked about the latest AI model released by OpenAI and said the race is now to reach artificial general intelligence (AGI) and companies would require more and more computing power to improve the reasoning capabilities of AI systems.\nREAD ALSO 7 Best Stocks to Buy For Long-Term and 8 Cheap Jim Cramer Stocks to Invest In\nFor this article, we picked 10 AI stocks currently making headlines on the back of latest analyst ratings and important news. With each stock, we have mentioned its hedge fund sentiment. Why are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points (see more details here).\n Jia Li / Shutterstock.com \nTesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)\nNumber of Hedge Fund Investors: 99\nDanny Moses, Moses Ventures founder, explained in a latest program on CNBC why he is no longer short on Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA). However, the analyst also said it’s hard to go long on the stock because it’s based on “all promises.”\n\n“The first quarter this year, it had just started to trade on fundamentals for the first time in a long time. It was hanging around $140 to $150, right? So you felt like, okay, the quarter was bad, right? What happened? The promise of Autonomous Day in August, which ended up getting pushed out to October. He flies to China to get some regulatory relief on certain things, and lo and behold, attaches himself to Trump to make all the other stuff go away.\nWhen the story moves from non-fundamental to technical and those kinds of things, that’s when I leave a story. We talk about it on the podcast a lot, giving updates there. But to people that are listening now, it’s very difficult, certainly, to short a name that’s not trading on fundamentals. It’s also hard to go long a name when it’s all on promises.”\n\nLooking beyond the recent spike in Tesla shares amid Donald Trump’s victory, Tesla’s fundamentals are challenged. How? Tesla Inc’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) key robotaxi event was short on details. Notably absent was the discussion of a “more affordable” model that Musk had previously mentioned to boost confidence in Tesla’s vehicle sales growth outlook.\nWhat about the $30,000 price tag claim?\nMusk has indicated that the Cybercab will have a production cost of approximately $30,000. Operating within the robotaxi fleet is projected to cost around $0.20 per mile. With a production cost of $30,000, the retail price of the Cybercab is likely to exceed this figure. For instance, if the Cybercab is priced at $30,000 per unit, that translates to $15,000 per seat. In contrast, the average price per passenger seat in Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA)’s most affordable long-range RWD Model 3—factoring in full self-driving (FSD) licensing—is under $10,000 ($29,990 post-incentive vehicle price plus $8,000 for the FSD license, divided by four passenger seats). Regarding operational costs, while the Cybercab is expected to cost $0.20 per mile, charging the Model 3 is estimated at under $0.10 per mile, leaving a significant margin to cover maintenance and downtime.\nThere is a lot of hype around Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) robo taxis but many believe they will not be enough to fix the company’s long-term challenges.\nWhat are these challenges?\nTesla Inc’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) product lineup is showing signs of stagnation, with over 95% of sales still coming from the Model 3 and Model Y. Meanwhile, competitors are rolling out more advanced models. Even Rivian’s CEO suggested Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) could be nearing market saturation for these models. According to Reuters, Tesla’s market share in Europe is slipping as legacy automakers like BMW post stronger sales. Chinese competitor BYD is also gaining ground in Europe, despite talk of tariffs.\nPolen Focus Growth Strategy stated the following regarding Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) in its Q3 2024 investor letter:\n\n“The largest relative detractors during the quarter were Apple, Airbnb, and Tesla (not owned). We’ve spoken at length about our rationale for not owning Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA). In short, the market seems to be pricing in a lot of positive optionality for this company in the near-to-intermediate term (and particularly a fully autonomous fleet of electric vehicles in the medium term). What exists today is an automobile manufacturer limited to the higher-income segment that is increasingly challenged to sell vehicles when interest rates are not zero. We continue to question the company’s long-term growth profile and governance.”\n\nOverall, TSLA ranks 6th on our list of buzzing AI stocks on latest analyst ratings and news. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA, our conviction lies in the belief that under the radar AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns, and doing so within a shorter timeframe. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the cheapest AI stock.\nREAD NEXT: 8 Best Wide Moat Stocks to Buy Now and 30 Most Important AI Stocks According to BlackRock\nDisclosure: None. This article is originally published at Insider Monkey.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":548,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":385713230955040,"gmtCreate":1735208917207,"gmtModify":1735211368187,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Pls check the price first before posting this. Wtf u are&nbsp;","listText":"Pls check the price first before posting this. Wtf u are&nbsp;","text":"Pls check the price first before posting this. Wtf u are","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/385713230955040","repostId":"1166848848","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":650,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":385491155722496,"gmtCreate":1735125114693,"gmtModify":1735132137537,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grapes who missed the Tesla big boat......what a loser and now saying bad things abt Tesla. FU","listText":"Another sour grapes who missed the Tesla big boat......what a loser and now saying bad things abt Tesla. FU","text":"Another sour grapes who missed the Tesla big boat......what a loser and now saying bad things abt Tesla. FU","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/385491155722496","repostId":"2494045824","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494045824","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735118700,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494045824?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-25 17:25","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Should You Forget Tesla and Buy 2 Artificial Intelligence (AI) Stocks Right Now?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494045824","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla could be a powerful AI company in the future. However, the companies already leading in AI might be better buys instead.","content":"<html><body><ul>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla's stock price is based on its Robotaxi and Tesla Bot plans. However, it has not delivered either one yet.</div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Alphabet's collection of powerful business assets justifies its stock price -- even if regulators force a spin-off.</div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>TSMC is too good a business to be this cheap despite ongoing geopolitical risks from China.</div>\n</li>\n</ul><div><p><strong>Tesla</strong> <span>(TSLA<span> 7.36%</span>)</span> is evolving beyond electric vehicles (EV) to become a bonafide artificial intelligence (AI) company. Its plans for an autonomous Robotaxi fleet and its work in humanoid robotics could eventually make it, as CEO Elon Musk believes, the world's most valuable company.</p><p>The problem is <em>that time</em> hasn't come yet. Tesla stock has soared nearly 70% this year. Yet its autonomous driving technology is only rated at the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) level two, requiring driver intervention. Tesla aims to begin selling its humanoid robot in 2026, but the company is infamous for missing promise dates.</p><p>The stock trades at 169 times forward-earnings estimates, a nonsensical valuation for a company analysts estimate will grow earnings by an average of 8% annually over the long term. In other words, analysts want to see real-world success from Tesla's ambitious projects before factoring them into expectations.</p><p>Perhaps investors should do the same. At the very least, Tesla's current valuation reflects future growth; it diminishes the stock's upside for those buying at these prices. It might be wise to temporarily put Tesla stock on the back burner and focus instead on some fantastic AI companies already making things happen and trading at attractive prices.</p><p>Here are two prime examples:</p><div><div><div></div></div></div><h2>1. Alphabet</h2><p>Technology giant <strong>Alphabet</strong> <span>(GOOG<span> 0.81%</span>)</span> <span>(GOOGL<span> 0.76%</span>)</span> is best known for its Google brand, which includes the search engine and Workspace, a collection of cloud-based productivity tools. But Alphabet stretches beyond that, including YouTube and businesses in cloud computing, smartphone software, autonomous driving, and quantum computing. Google's Waymo has already begun selling rides in vehicles that operate at SAE level four -- a higher autonomy level than Tesla. Additionally, Alphabet is an early power player in artificial intelligence, having developed an AI model (Gemini) and accumulated the computing resources to train and operate it, and it has loads of first-party data from its Google products.</p><div><app :collapse_on_load=\"false\" :instrument_id=\"203768\" :show_benchmark_compare=\"false\" amount_change=\"1.48\" average_volume=\"27,547,780\" company_name=\"Alphabet\" current_price=\"196.11\" daily_high=\"196.11\" daily_low=\"193.78\" default_period=\"OneYear\" dividend_yield=\"0.31%\" exchange=\"NASDAQ\" fifty_two_week_high=\"201.42\" fifty_two_week_low=\"130.66\" gross_margin=\"57.89\" logo=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/art/companylogos/mark/GOOGL.png\" market_cap=\"$2,401B\" pe_ratio=\"26.01\" percent_change=\"0.76\" symbol=\"GOOGL\" volume=\"10,403,259\"></app></div><p>If anything, Alphabet is such a powerful company that regulators have begun attacking it. The U.S. government successfully sued Alphabet earlier this year for anticompetitive tactics in its search engine business and is now going back after Google for its digital ad practices. The litigation injects some uncertainty into the investment picture. Still, Alphabet figures to remain a powerful technology force even if it must break off pieces of its empire to please regulators. Any spin-offs could unlock value for investors, and Alphabet's products may continue dominating anyway.</p><div></div><p>Besides, Alphabet stock is worth taking a chance at given such an attractive valuation. The stock trades at 24 times 2024 earnings estimates. Meanwhile, analysts estimate Alphabet will grow earnings by an average of 16.5% annually over the long term. The resulting price/earnings-to-growth (PEG) ratio is under 1.5, which makes it an easy buy at these prices. I'd happily buy a dominant tech and AI stock like Alphabet at a PEG ratio of 2.0 to 2.5, so it's more than pricing in the regulatory risks right now.</p><h2>2. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing</h2><p>Working behind the scenes, <strong>Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing</strong> <span>(TSM<span> -0.50%</span>)</span> could be the most dominant AI stock, and most people don't recognize the company's name. The company, More commonly referred to as TSMC, is the world's leading semiconductor manufacturing foundry. Most chip companies, including <strong>Nvidia</strong>, design semiconductor chipsets but don't produce them. They outsource production to foundries instead. TSMC is the biggest and best foundry on the planet. It manufactures approximately 64% of the world's semiconductors. It's arguably the backbone of the tech world and not just of AI.</p><div><div><div></div></div></div><div><app :collapse_on_load=\"false\" :instrument_id=\"205813\" :show_benchmark_compare=\"false\" amount_change=\"-1.03\" average_volume=\"13,669,227\" company_name=\"Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing\" current_price=\"206.33\" daily_high=\"207.20\" daily_low=\"204.55\" default_period=\"OneYear\" dividend_yield=\"1.13%\" exchange=\"NYSE\" fifty_two_week_high=\"212.60\" fifty_two_week_low=\"98.80\" gross_margin=\"53.04\" logo=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/art/companylogos/mark/TSM.png\" market_cap=\"$1,070B\" pe_ratio=\"33.03\" percent_change=\"-0.50\" symbol=\"TSM\" volume=\"7,634,490\"></app></div><p>TSMC's stock shares some similarities with Alphabet. It also trades near its all-time high. Yet the stock's valuation is cheaper than it probably should be due to some external risks facing the company. The Taiwan-based company faces geopolitical risks from China, which has long claimed Taiwan as part of its territory. The fear is that China could eventually act on invasion threats, potentially disrupting the business for obvious reasons. Taiwan has a strong economy (21st largest in the world) and is a critical piece in the world's political puzzle -- partly due to TSMC.</p><p>The company has invested in building U.S. production facilities (and facilities in Japan) to help mitigate some of these risks. Plus, an invasion might never happen. Ultimately, nobody knows. But the stock becomes such a good value at some point that it's worth taking that chance. TSMC trades at 28 times 2024 earnings estimates. Thanks to AI-fueled semiconductor growth, analysts estimate TSMC will grow earnings by an average of 31% annually over the long term. That PEG ratio (under 1.0) on what could be the most powerful company in the AI supply chain makes it a buy even with geopolitical risks.</p><div></div></div></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Forget Tesla and Buy 2 Artificial Intelligence (AI) Stocks Right Now?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nShould You Forget Tesla and Buy 2 Artificial Intelligence (AI) Stocks Right Now?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-25 17:25 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/12/25/forget-tesla-buy-artificial-intelligence-stocks/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla's stock price is based on its Robotaxi and Tesla Bot plans. However, it has not delivered either one yet.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAlphabet's collection of powerful business assets justifies its stock price -- ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/12/25/forget-tesla-buy-artificial-intelligence-stocks/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F801807%2Fai-investor.jpg&op=resize&w=165&h=104","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/12/25/forget-tesla-buy-artificial-intelligence-stocks/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2494045824","content_text":"Tesla's stock price is based on its Robotaxi and Tesla Bot plans. However, it has not delivered either one yet.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAlphabet's collection of powerful business assets justifies its stock price -- even if regulators force a spin-off.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTSMC is too good a business to be this cheap despite ongoing geopolitical risks from China.\n\nTesla (TSLA 7.36%) is evolving beyond electric vehicles (EV) to become a bonafide artificial intelligence (AI) company. Its plans for an autonomous Robotaxi fleet and its work in humanoid robotics could eventually make it, as CEO Elon Musk believes, the world's most valuable company.The problem is that time hasn't come yet. Tesla stock has soared nearly 70% this year. Yet its autonomous driving technology is only rated at the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) level two, requiring driver intervention. Tesla aims to begin selling its humanoid robot in 2026, but the company is infamous for missing promise dates.The stock trades at 169 times forward-earnings estimates, a nonsensical valuation for a company analysts estimate will grow earnings by an average of 8% annually over the long term. In other words, analysts want to see real-world success from Tesla's ambitious projects before factoring them into expectations.Perhaps investors should do the same. At the very least, Tesla's current valuation reflects future growth; it diminishes the stock's upside for those buying at these prices. It might be wise to temporarily put Tesla stock on the back burner and focus instead on some fantastic AI companies already making things happen and trading at attractive prices.Here are two prime examples:1. AlphabetTechnology giant Alphabet (GOOG 0.81%) (GOOGL 0.76%) is best known for its Google brand, which includes the search engine and Workspace, a collection of cloud-based productivity tools. But Alphabet stretches beyond that, including YouTube and businesses in cloud computing, smartphone software, autonomous driving, and quantum computing. Google's Waymo has already begun selling rides in vehicles that operate at SAE level four -- a higher autonomy level than Tesla. Additionally, Alphabet is an early power player in artificial intelligence, having developed an AI model (Gemini) and accumulated the computing resources to train and operate it, and it has loads of first-party data from its Google products.If anything, Alphabet is such a powerful company that regulators have begun attacking it. The U.S. government successfully sued Alphabet earlier this year for anticompetitive tactics in its search engine business and is now going back after Google for its digital ad practices. The litigation injects some uncertainty into the investment picture. Still, Alphabet figures to remain a powerful technology force even if it must break off pieces of its empire to please regulators. Any spin-offs could unlock value for investors, and Alphabet's products may continue dominating anyway.Besides, Alphabet stock is worth taking a chance at given such an attractive valuation. The stock trades at 24 times 2024 earnings estimates. Meanwhile, analysts estimate Alphabet will grow earnings by an average of 16.5% annually over the long term. The resulting price/earnings-to-growth (PEG) ratio is under 1.5, which makes it an easy buy at these prices. I'd happily buy a dominant tech and AI stock like Alphabet at a PEG ratio of 2.0 to 2.5, so it's more than pricing in the regulatory risks right now.2. Taiwan Semiconductor ManufacturingWorking behind the scenes, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing (TSM -0.50%) could be the most dominant AI stock, and most people don't recognize the company's name. The company, More commonly referred to as TSMC, is the world's leading semiconductor manufacturing foundry. Most chip companies, including Nvidia, design semiconductor chipsets but don't produce them. They outsource production to foundries instead. TSMC is the biggest and best foundry on the planet. It manufactures approximately 64% of the world's semiconductors. It's arguably the backbone of the tech world and not just of AI.TSMC's stock shares some similarities with Alphabet. It also trades near its all-time high. Yet the stock's valuation is cheaper than it probably should be due to some external risks facing the company. The Taiwan-based company faces geopolitical risks from China, which has long claimed Taiwan as part of its territory. The fear is that China could eventually act on invasion threats, potentially disrupting the business for obvious reasons. Taiwan has a strong economy (21st largest in the world) and is a critical piece in the world's political puzzle -- partly due to TSMC.The company has invested in building U.S. production facilities (and facilities in Japan) to help mitigate some of these risks. Plus, an invasion might never happen. Ultimately, nobody knows. But the stock becomes such a good value at some point that it's worth taking that chance. TSMC trades at 28 times 2024 earnings estimates. Thanks to AI-fueled semiconductor growth, analysts estimate TSMC will grow earnings by an average of 31% annually over the long term. That PEG ratio (under 1.0) on what could be the most powerful company in the AI supply chain makes it a buy even with geopolitical risks.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":721,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":384770001645976,"gmtCreate":1734977906069,"gmtModify":1734977910050,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nonsense article. If aliens attacked earth does anything else matters??????","listText":"Nonsense article. If aliens attacked earth does anything else matters??????","text":"Nonsense article. If aliens attacked earth does anything else matters??????","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/384770001645976","repostId":"2493795995","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":476,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":384822540173368,"gmtCreate":1734970226955,"gmtModify":1734970230641,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many many many sour grapes around","listText":"So many many many sour grapes around","text":"So many many many sour grapes around","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/384822540173368","repostId":"2493683769","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2493683769","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735036200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2493683769?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-24 18:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Record Deliveries Expected. This Is Why It Probably Doesn't Matter For TSLA","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2493683769","media":"Investor’s Business Daily","summary":"The company could hit record Q4 deliveries but it may not mean anything for TSLA.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The fourth quarter is ending soon and <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a></strong> is attempting to shatter its previous delivery record. Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be seen whether that will be enough to propel the company to yearly unit delivery growth. Tesla stock rose Monday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A Monday note from Barclays estimated Tesla&#39;s total Q4 deliveries at 515,000 units, the magic number which would represent year-over-year delivery growth compared to 1.8 million in 2023. The analysts wrote this will &#34;keep stock&#39;s narrative momentum strong.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">However, the firm believes investor focus on Tesla stock&#39;s fundamentals is generally limited and that a light near-term volume miss &#34;would likely do little to dampen&#34; TSLA&#39;s rally, fueled by President-elect Donald Trump, autonomous vehicle and artificial intelligence.</p><p>Meanwhile, Barclays also wrote that Tesla&#39;s Q4 result is likely &#34;immaterial to the majority of the current Tesla bull case.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA shares jumped 2.3% to 430.60 during market action on Monday after booking a 3.5% decline last week. The stock is on a 70% tear since Trump&#39;s election win, as investors speculate that self-driving is coming soon, with the Trump administration easing the regulatory path for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>On Wednesday, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday. Despite last week&#39;s decline, Tesla stock is still above its 21-day line and 50-day moving average. Shares are still in a huge uptrend and due for some consolidation.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Barclays analysts on Dec. 18 wrote the postelection rally in TSLA shares reflects a &#34;sharp disconnect&#34; between the stock and the company&#39;s fundamentals. The firm wrote that technicals and options are playing an outsized role in the rally and that Tesla shares are now best compared to cryptocurrencies.</p><h2 id=\"id_2087101716\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Q4 Deliveries</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV giant has said it expects &#34;slight&#34; vehicle deliveries growth this year, but with the end of the fourth quarter fast approaching, Tesla finds itself looking for answers with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe.</p><p>The company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.8 million in 2023 and while Tesla has said that sort of increase this year is out of reach, it is predicting growth in its automobile segment.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;Despite ongoing macroeconomic conditions, we expect to achieve slight growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024,&#34; Tesla said in its third-quarter earnings release.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow &#34;20%-30%&#34; in 2025.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With Tesla predicting slight vehicle delivery growth in 2024 vs. 2023&#39;s 1.81 million, the EV giant needs 514,925 deliveries in Q4, far more than the Q4 2023 record of 484,507. Analyst consensus currently forecasts 498,000 vehicle deliveries in Q4 and 1.79 million for 2024, according to FactSet.</p><h2 id=\"id_1262385519\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Stock Performance</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company&#39;s longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bc7b710755378fe26813fc8902a26fc1\" tg-width=\"1210\" tg-height=\"649\"/></p><p>Tesla stock has surged in recent weeks in part on hopes that self-driving is finally on the way. Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA stock is now on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 93 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. 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This Is Why It Probably Doesn't Matter For TSLA\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-24 18:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-record-deliveries-expected-but-does-it-matter/><strong>Investor’s Business Daily</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The fourth quarter is ending soon and Tesla is attempting to shatter its previous delivery record. Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-record-deliveries-expected-but-does-it-matter/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-record-deliveries-expected-but-does-it-matter/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2493683769","content_text":"The fourth quarter is ending soon and Tesla is attempting to shatter its previous delivery record. Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be seen whether that will be enough to propel the company to yearly unit delivery growth. Tesla stock rose Monday.A Monday note from Barclays estimated Tesla's total Q4 deliveries at 515,000 units, the magic number which would represent year-over-year delivery growth compared to 1.8 million in 2023. The analysts wrote this will \"keep stock's narrative momentum strong.\"However, the firm believes investor focus on Tesla stock's fundamentals is generally limited and that a light near-term volume miss \"would likely do little to dampen\" TSLA's rally, fueled by President-elect Donald Trump, autonomous vehicle and artificial intelligence.Meanwhile, Barclays also wrote that Tesla's Q4 result is likely \"immaterial to the majority of the current Tesla bull case.\"TSLA shares jumped 2.3% to 430.60 during market action on Monday after booking a 3.5% decline last week. The stock is on a 70% tear since Trump's election win, as investors speculate that self-driving is coming soon, with the Trump administration easing the regulatory path for autonomous vehicles.On Wednesday, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday. Despite last week's decline, Tesla stock is still above its 21-day line and 50-day moving average. Shares are still in a huge uptrend and due for some consolidation.Barclays analysts on Dec. 18 wrote the postelection rally in TSLA shares reflects a \"sharp disconnect\" between the stock and the company's fundamentals. The firm wrote that technicals and options are playing an outsized role in the rally and that Tesla shares are now best compared to cryptocurrencies.Tesla Q4 DeliveriesThe EV giant has said it expects \"slight\" vehicle deliveries growth this year, but with the end of the fourth quarter fast approaching, Tesla finds itself looking for answers with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe.The company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.8 million in 2023 and while Tesla has said that sort of increase this year is out of reach, it is predicting growth in its automobile segment.\"Despite ongoing macroeconomic conditions, we expect to achieve slight growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024,\" Tesla said in its third-quarter earnings release.Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow \"20%-30%\" in 2025.With Tesla predicting slight vehicle delivery growth in 2024 vs. 2023's 1.81 million, the EV giant needs 514,925 deliveries in Q4, far more than the Q4 2023 record of 484,507. Analyst consensus currently forecasts 498,000 vehicle deliveries in Q4 and 1.79 million for 2024, according to FactSet.Tesla Stock PerformanceTesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company's longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.Tesla stock has surged in recent weeks in part on hopes that self-driving is finally on the way. Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended.Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.TSLA stock is now on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 93 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. 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Thanks and Merry Christmas !","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/384699840303600","repostId":"382611896570240","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":382611896570240,"gmtCreate":1734446119811,"gmtModify":1734486623498,"author":{"id":"3570103090255456","authorId":"3570103090255456","name":"JC888","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f3e3c0218599fca5c4e265ddbee1fb32","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3570103090255456","authorIdStr":"3570103090255456"},"themes":[],"title":"NVDA vs AMZN : AI Battle Heats Up & Fast !","htmlText":"My favorite last line from Animal Farm by George Orwell is, “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” (see above) I know Animal Farm is a political satire fiction. 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The idea that I wanted to borrow and apply to both <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$</a> and <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/AMZN\">$Amazon.com(AMZN)$</a> is, when it comes to pursuing all things artificial intelligence, the lines are starting to blur. Join me as I explain and share my thoughts. In the artificial intelligence “chip” arena, the winner is clearly Nvidia. However, that does not mean other tech titans are sitting on the sidelines. AMZN’s Challenge. On Tue, 03 Dec 2024, the tussle for A","text":"My favorite last line from Animal Farm by George Orwell is, “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” (see above) I know Animal Farm is a political satire fiction. The idea that I wanted to borrow and apply to both $NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ and $Amazon.com(AMZN)$ is, when it comes to pursuing all things artificial intelligence, the lines are starting to blur. Join me as I explain and share my thoughts. In the artificial intelligence “chip” arena, the winner is clearly Nvidia. However, that does not mean other tech titans are sitting on the sidelines. AMZN’s Challenge. 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That was certainly troubling for investors to see, particularly when you consider that the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 index was up 18% during that same period of time.But since the presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla shares have rocketed 77% higher . The booming EV stock now trades just 8% off its all-time record, as it benefits from tremendous momentum.Looking toward the future, let's see if Tesla is a millionaire maker?","content":"<html><body><ul>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla successfully disrupted the auto industry, leading to rapid growth and consistent profits. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>The stock has been on a tear in recent weeks, which has driven the valuation to nosebleed levels. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Lofty expectations leave prospective investors with zero margin of safety. </div>\n</li>\n</ul><div><p><span>Through the first 10 months of 2024, shares of </span><strong><span>Tesla</span></strong><span> <span>(TSLA<span> -3.46%</span>)</span> were essentially flat despite the extreme volatility they exhibited. That was certainly troubling for investors to see, particularly when you consider that the tech-heavy </span><strong><span>Nasdaq 100 index</span></strong><span> was up 18% during that same period of time.</span></p><p><span>But since the presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla shares have rocketed 77% higher (as of Dec. 18). The booming </span><span>EV stock</span><span> now trades just 8% off its all-time record, as it benefits from tremendous momentum.</span></p><p><span>Looking toward the future, let's see if Tesla is a millionaire maker?</span></p><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Looking in the rearview mirror</span></h2><p><span>I definitely don't doubt that early Tesla shareholders have gotten rich off their holdings. In the past decade, the stock has soared 3,110%, a gain any investor would be excited about. This means that had you invested about $31,000 in Tesla in mid-December 2014, you'd be sitting on a cool $1 million today. This business has indeed been a millionaire-maker in the past.</span></p><p><span>Tesla's rise can be attributed to its ability to disrupt the traditional auto industry. While the Model S sports sedan was first launched in 2012, the business now offers five total passenger vehicle models, all of which have unique designs and innovative tech features that consumers appreciate.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><p><span>Growth historically has been superb. Revenue totaled $25.2 billion in the third quarter (ended Sept. 30), up 300% compared to the same period five years earlier. At the same time, Tesla went from delivering 97,000 vehicle units in Q3 2019 to 463,000 in the latest quarter. This volume gives the company 17% global market share in the EV industry.</span></p><p><span>It's also worth pointing out that Tesla's cost advantages, as well as its premium brand positioning, enable it to earn consistent profits. In the past five years, the quarterly </span><span>gross margin</span><span> and </span><span>operating margin</span><span> have averaged 19.9% and 10.2%, respectively. Tesla's bottom-line performance compares quite favorably to legacy automakers whose EV segments continue losing billions of dollars.</span></p><div></div><div><app :collapse_on_load=\"false\" :instrument_id=\"224257\" :show_benchmark_compare=\"false\" amount_change=\"-15.11\" average_volume=\"92,697,613\" company_name=\"Tesla\" current_price=\"421.06\" daily_high=\"447.08\" daily_low=\"417.64\" default_period=\"FiveYear\" dividend_yield=\"N/A\" exchange=\"NASDAQ\" fifty_two_week_high=\"488.54\" fifty_two_week_low=\"138.80\" gross_margin=\"18.23\" logo=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/art/companylogos/mark/TSLA.png\" market_cap=\"$1,352B\" pe_ratio=\"115.35\" percent_change=\"-3.46\" symbol=\"TSLA\" volume=\"132,216,176\"></app></div><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Keep your eyes on the road</span></h2><p><span>Investors who have been on the sidelines watching Tesla's ascent wonder if the stock can keep its unbelievable streak going in the years ahead. It's easy to be critical in this regard.</span></p><p><span>Tesla's latest stock surge is likely credited to founder and CEO Elon Musk's close ties with President-elect Donald Trump. With the hopes of favorable regulatory policies toward laws surrounding full self-driving (FSD) technology, the market could be anticipating a </span><span>smooth path for Tesla</span><span>.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><p><span>For what it's worth, the business has plans to launch ride-hailing services in California and Texas next year. But if the legal framework becomes more accommodating, maybe Tesla can make inroads into many more markets in the not-too-distant future.</span></p><p><span>Even if you were bullish on the possibility of FSD capabilities becoming a commercial success through a combination of Tesla operating a company-owned robotaxi fleet and selling autonomous vehicles to the masses, it's hard to argue that this optimism isn't already fully baked into the current valuation.</span></p><p><span>As of this writing, Tesla's </span><span>forward price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio</span><span> is an eye-watering 177. It's wild to think that at the start of the year, this multiple was just 27. Clearly, market sentiment has shifted in a dramatic way to the upside. When a forward P/E ratio is as high as Tesla's, there is undoubtedly zero </span><span>margin of safety</span><span>.</span></p><p><span>Viewing the present with a clear lens, it's obvious that Tesla remains a car manufacturer that is exposed to macroforces and intense competition. This should help put things in perspective.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><p><span>While the leader in EVs has been a millionaire-maker in the past, for prospective investors looking to hop on the Tesla bandwagon now, I'm not confident it can get you into the seven-figure club if shares were purchased today. The valuation is just too high.</span></p><div></div></div></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla a Millionaire Maker?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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That was certainly troubling for investors to see, particularly when you consider that the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 index was up 18% during that same period of time.But since the presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla shares have rocketed 77% higher (as of Dec. 18). The booming EV stock now trades just 8% off its all-time record, as it benefits from tremendous momentum.Looking toward the future, let's see if Tesla is a millionaire maker?Looking in the rearview mirrorI definitely don't doubt that early Tesla shareholders have gotten rich off their holdings. In the past decade, the stock has soared 3,110%, a gain any investor would be excited about. This means that had you invested about $31,000 in Tesla in mid-December 2014, you'd be sitting on a cool $1 million today. This business has indeed been a millionaire-maker in the past.Tesla's rise can be attributed to its ability to disrupt the traditional auto industry. While the Model S sports sedan was first launched in 2012, the business now offers five total passenger vehicle models, all of which have unique designs and innovative tech features that consumers appreciate.Growth historically has been superb. Revenue totaled $25.2 billion in the third quarter (ended Sept. 30), up 300% compared to the same period five years earlier. At the same time, Tesla went from delivering 97,000 vehicle units in Q3 2019 to 463,000 in the latest quarter. This volume gives the company 17% global market share in the EV industry.It's also worth pointing out that Tesla's cost advantages, as well as its premium brand positioning, enable it to earn consistent profits. In the past five years, the quarterly gross margin and operating margin have averaged 19.9% and 10.2%, respectively. Tesla's bottom-line performance compares quite favorably to legacy automakers whose EV segments continue losing billions of dollars.Keep your eyes on the roadInvestors who have been on the sidelines watching Tesla's ascent wonder if the stock can keep its unbelievable streak going in the years ahead. It's easy to be critical in this regard.Tesla's latest stock surge is likely credited to founder and CEO Elon Musk's close ties with President-elect Donald Trump. With the hopes of favorable regulatory policies toward laws surrounding full self-driving (FSD) technology, the market could be anticipating a smooth path for Tesla.For what it's worth, the business has plans to launch ride-hailing services in California and Texas next year. But if the legal framework becomes more accommodating, maybe Tesla can make inroads into many more markets in the not-too-distant future.Even if you were bullish on the possibility of FSD capabilities becoming a commercial success through a combination of Tesla operating a company-owned robotaxi fleet and selling autonomous vehicles to the masses, it's hard to argue that this optimism isn't already fully baked into the current valuation.As of this writing, Tesla's forward price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio is an eye-watering 177. It's wild to think that at the start of the year, this multiple was just 27. Clearly, market sentiment has shifted in a dramatic way to the upside. When a forward P/E ratio is as high as Tesla's, there is undoubtedly zero margin of safety.Viewing the present with a clear lens, it's obvious that Tesla remains a car manufacturer that is exposed to macroforces and intense competition. This should help put things in perspective.While the leader in EVs has been a millionaire-maker in the past, for prospective investors looking to hop on the Tesla bandwagon now, I'm not confident it can get you into the seven-figure club if shares were purchased today. The valuation is just too high.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":367,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":380828532007136,"gmtCreate":1733986476013,"gmtModify":1733986479734,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape","listText":"Another sour grape","text":"Another sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/380828532007136","repostId":"2490824782","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":150,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":380452974104936,"gmtCreate":1733912015837,"gmtModify":1733912019796,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Mr Short, we know u missed the boat. Pls don't sour grape. We feel u","listText":"Mr Short, we know u missed the boat. Pls don't sour grape. We feel u","text":"Mr Short, we know u missed the boat. Pls don't sour grape. We feel u","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/380452974104936","repostId":"1162240781","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1162240781","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1733896165,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1162240781?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-11 13:49","market":"us","language":"en","title":"After Tuesday's Close Above $400, How Overbought is Tesla Stock?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1162240781","media":"Barchart","summary":"Electric vehicle (EV) giant $Tesla(TSLA)$ has been one of the biggest post-election stock winners, with the shares up 59.5% from their Nov. 5 closing price. Once a significant year-to-date underperfor","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Electric vehicle (EV) giant <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> has been one of the biggest post-election stock winners, with the shares up 59.5% from their Nov. 5 closing price. Once a significant year-to-date underperformer, TSLA stock is now up 61.4% as we approach the final weeks of 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla&#39;s stock is currently at three-year highs, and closed Tuesday’s session above the round $400 level for the first time since Nov. 5, 2021. <strong>The stock&#39;s 14-day Relative Strength Index (RSI) is now at 76.04, well into overbought territory</strong>, which implies a pullback is possible in the short term. </p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/be13e76ad2588bb9e3f4e7129d1072a4\" alt=\"www.barchart.com\" title=\"www.barchart.com\" tg-width=\"1337\" tg-height=\"1072\"/><span>www.barchart.com</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In the monthly December options series, which expires next Friday after the close, <strong>TSLA options traders have the key $400 level in their sights</strong>. This strike price is home to heavy open interest of 58,437 contracts - plus, speculators have stacked up another 41,227 contracts at the weekly December 13 400-strike call option, which traded volume in excess of 98,000 contracts today.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The surge in TSLA stock during the final stretch of this year has been largely driven by market optimism surrounding advancements in autonomous driving technology, as well as potential regulatory support from the incoming administration. The company&#39;s market capitalization now stands at approximately $1.25 trillion, with some bulls predicting a $2 trillion valuation on the horizon for 2025.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Analysts have raised their price targets in response, but the consensus rating of “Hold” reflects lingering caution, largely due to the stock&#39;s high valuation metrics. TSLA’s forward adjusted price/earnings (P/E) ratio is a steep 157.06 - which is a premium not only compared to industry averages, but also to Tesla’s own notoriously rich earnings multiples, which have averaged 114.13 over the past five years.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Overall, Tesla remains a strong contender in the EV market, but investors should be extremely cautious at these price levels, when the possibility of a correction or profit-taking is higher than usual.</p></body></html>","source":"barchart_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>After Tuesday's Close Above $400, How Overbought is Tesla Stock?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAfter Tuesday's Close Above $400, How Overbought is Tesla Stock?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-11 13:49 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29991193/after-todays-close-above-400-how-overbought-is-tesla-stock><strong>Barchart</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Electric vehicle (EV) giant Tesla has been one of the biggest post-election stock winners, with the shares up 59.5% from their Nov. 5 closing price. Once a significant year-to-date underperformer, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29991193/after-todays-close-above-400-how-overbought-is-tesla-stock\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29991193/after-todays-close-above-400-how-overbought-is-tesla-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1162240781","content_text":"Electric vehicle (EV) giant Tesla has been one of the biggest post-election stock winners, with the shares up 59.5% from their Nov. 5 closing price. Once a significant year-to-date underperformer, TSLA stock is now up 61.4% as we approach the final weeks of 2024.Tesla's stock is currently at three-year highs, and closed Tuesday’s session above the round $400 level for the first time since Nov. 5, 2021. The stock's 14-day Relative Strength Index (RSI) is now at 76.04, well into overbought territory, which implies a pullback is possible in the short term. www.barchart.comIn the monthly December options series, which expires next Friday after the close, TSLA options traders have the key $400 level in their sights. This strike price is home to heavy open interest of 58,437 contracts - plus, speculators have stacked up another 41,227 contracts at the weekly December 13 400-strike call option, which traded volume in excess of 98,000 contracts today.The surge in TSLA stock during the final stretch of this year has been largely driven by market optimism surrounding advancements in autonomous driving technology, as well as potential regulatory support from the incoming administration. The company's market capitalization now stands at approximately $1.25 trillion, with some bulls predicting a $2 trillion valuation on the horizon for 2025.Analysts have raised their price targets in response, but the consensus rating of “Hold” reflects lingering caution, largely due to the stock's high valuation metrics. TSLA’s forward adjusted price/earnings (P/E) ratio is a steep 157.06 - which is a premium not only compared to industry averages, but also to Tesla’s own notoriously rich earnings multiples, which have averaged 114.13 over the past five years.Overall, Tesla remains a strong contender in the EV market, but investors should be extremely cautious at these price levels, when the possibility of a correction or profit-taking is higher than usual.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":236,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":379019754139648,"gmtCreate":1733559686138,"gmtModify":1733559690509,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many sour grapes around....","listText":"So many sour grapes around....","text":"So many sour grapes around....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/379019754139648","repostId":"2489821093","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2489821093","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1733557123,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2489821093?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-07 15:38","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Bernstein Analyst Assigns Sell Rating on Tesla, Inc. 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It also takes significantly more compute to power these capabilities”.","content":"<html><body><p>We recently compiled a list of the <strong>15 AI News Updates That Broke The Internet</strong>.<strong> </strong>In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against the other AI stocks that broke the Internet recently.</p>\n<p>With Trump taking in the reigns soon, steps toward overhauling the US policy have begun. President-elect Trump said on Thursday that he is appointing former Pay Pal Chief Operating Officer David Sacks as his \"White House A.I. &amp; Crypto Czar”.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“David will guide policy for the Administration in Artificial Intelligence and Cryptocurrency, two areas critical to the future of American competitiveness. David will focus on making America the clear global leader in both areas,”</p>\n<p>-Trump said in a post on his social-media site Truth Social.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><strong>READ NOW: 15 AI News Investors Shouldn’t Miss and 15 Buzzing AI Stocks Making Headlines </strong></p>\n<p>Officials such as the crypto czar, a title that is not known to be official, along with other officials in Trump's incoming administration such as the chairs of the Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission, are anticipated to reshape U.S. policy on digital currency along with a newly created crypto advisory council. lad Gil, an entrepreneur, stated that the choice of Sacks is a \"strong move\" in a post on X. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman also congratulated him.</p>\n<p>In other news, OpenAI has debuted a “research grade” version of its main artificial intelligence (AI) model. The ChatGPT Pro is a $200-per-month plan that includes unlimited access to the company’s smartest model, OpenAI o1, as well as to o1-mini, GPT-4o and Advanced Voice.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“As AI becomes more advanced, it will solve increasingly complex and critical problems. It also takes significantly more compute to power these capabilities”.</p>\n<p>-OpenAI</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>ChatGPT Pro also includes o1 pro mode, a version of o1 that uses more compute for thinking harder and provides even better answers to the hardest problems. OpenAI also expects to add more powerful, compute-intensive productivity features to this plan in the future. Moreover, the company announced that it is awarding 10 grants of ChatGPT Pro to medical researchers at leading institutions in the U.S. to help drive meaningful progress in fields that benefit humanity.</p>\n<p>Artificial intelligence is also shaping the healthcare industry. As per a recent study by Accenture, AI-driven healthcare has the potential to save up to $150 billion annually by 2026 in the US.  This is done by reducing administrative costs, automating patient education, and improving adherence to care plans. In particular, AI-powered assistants can provide essential, 24/7 support. In the latest news, researchers from Germany and the US have developed a deep learning framework for automated volumetric body composition analysis using whole-body MRI. Published in eBioMedicine, the study validated this approach and demonstrated its potential to predict all-cause mortality in a large Western population.</p>\n<p>For this article, we selected AI stocks by going through news articles, stock analysis, and press releases. These stocks are also popular among hedge funds.</p>\n<p>Why are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points (<strong>see more details here</strong>).</p>\n<img height=\"816\" src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/.iqS_n5baPW8rlrJubBU_w--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insidermonkey.com/1277c6032fd09b727a10249a170024cf\" width=\"1456\"/> 25 Most In Demand Cars Heading into 2024 \n<h3>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)</h3>\n<p><strong><em>Number of Hedge Fund Holders: 99</em></strong></p>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) is an automotive and clean energy company that leverages advanced artificial intelligence in its autonomous driving technology and robotics initiatives. On December 5, Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi assigned a Sell rating on Tesla and set a price target of $120.00. Sacconaghi considers Tesla’s robotaxi project as a risky move, and said that the plan works too much on assumptions. The assumption is that self-driving technology will work perfectly, gain regulatory approval, and consumers will end up favoring robotaxis over owning cars. Moreover, even though there is a potential for robotaxis to be valuable, he said that there are many hurdles that Tesla must overcome, such as regulatory challenges and technological advancements. He also said Tesla’s current valuation doesn’t match the risks and sees no strong short-term growth drivers, leading to his negative outlook.</p>\n<p>Overall TSLA <strong>ranks 4th</strong> on our list of the AI stocks that broke the Internet recently. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA as an investment, our conviction lies in the belief that some AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns and doing so within a shorter timeframe. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the <strong>cheapest AI stock.</strong></p>   \n<p><strong>READ NEXT: 8 Best Wide Moat Stocks to Buy Now and 30 Most Important AI Stocks According to BlackRock.</strong></p>   \n<p>Disclosure: None. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against the other AI stocks that broke the Internet recently.\nWith Trump taking in the reigns soon, steps toward overhauling the US policy have begun. President-elect Trump said on Thursday that he is appointing former Pay Pal Chief Operating Officer David Sacks as his \"White House A.I. & Crypto Czar”.\n\n“David will guide policy for the Administration in Artificial Intelligence and Cryptocurrency, two areas critical to the future of American competitiveness. David will focus on making America the clear global leader in both areas,”\n-Trump said in a post on his social-media site Truth Social.\n\nREAD NOW: 15 AI News Investors Shouldn’t Miss and 15 Buzzing AI Stocks Making Headlines \nOfficials such as the crypto czar, a title that is not known to be official, along with other officials in Trump's incoming administration such as the chairs of the Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission, are anticipated to reshape U.S. policy on digital currency along with a newly created crypto advisory council. lad Gil, an entrepreneur, stated that the choice of Sacks is a \"strong move\" in a post on X. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman also congratulated him.\nIn other news, OpenAI has debuted a “research grade” version of its main artificial intelligence (AI) model. The ChatGPT Pro is a $200-per-month plan that includes unlimited access to the company’s smartest model, OpenAI o1, as well as to o1-mini, GPT-4o and Advanced Voice.\n\n“As AI becomes more advanced, it will solve increasingly complex and critical problems. It also takes significantly more compute to power these capabilities”.\n-OpenAI\n\nChatGPT Pro also includes o1 pro mode, a version of o1 that uses more compute for thinking harder and provides even better answers to the hardest problems. OpenAI also expects to add more powerful, compute-intensive productivity features to this plan in the future. Moreover, the company announced that it is awarding 10 grants of ChatGPT Pro to medical researchers at leading institutions in the U.S. to help drive meaningful progress in fields that benefit humanity.\nArtificial intelligence is also shaping the healthcare industry. As per a recent study by Accenture, AI-driven healthcare has the potential to save up to $150 billion annually by 2026 in the US.  This is done by reducing administrative costs, automating patient education, and improving adherence to care plans. In particular, AI-powered assistants can provide essential, 24/7 support. In the latest news, researchers from Germany and the US have developed a deep learning framework for automated volumetric body composition analysis using whole-body MRI. Published in eBioMedicine, the study validated this approach and demonstrated its potential to predict all-cause mortality in a large Western population.\nFor this article, we selected AI stocks by going through news articles, stock analysis, and press releases. These stocks are also popular among hedge funds.\nWhy are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points (see more details here).\n 25 Most In Demand Cars Heading into 2024 \nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)\nNumber of Hedge Fund Holders: 99\nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) is an automotive and clean energy company that leverages advanced artificial intelligence in its autonomous driving technology and robotics initiatives. On December 5, Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi assigned a Sell rating on Tesla and set a price target of $120.00. Sacconaghi considers Tesla’s robotaxi project as a risky move, and said that the plan works too much on assumptions. The assumption is that self-driving technology will work perfectly, gain regulatory approval, and consumers will end up favoring robotaxis over owning cars. Moreover, even though there is a potential for robotaxis to be valuable, he said that there are many hurdles that Tesla must overcome, such as regulatory challenges and technological advancements. He also said Tesla’s current valuation doesn’t match the risks and sees no strong short-term growth drivers, leading to his negative outlook.\nOverall TSLA ranks 4th on our list of the AI stocks that broke the Internet recently. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA as an investment, our conviction lies in the belief that some AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns and doing so within a shorter timeframe. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the cheapest AI stock.   \nREAD NEXT: 8 Best Wide Moat Stocks to Buy Now and 30 Most Important AI Stocks According to BlackRock.   \nDisclosure: None. This article is originally published at Insider Monkey.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":378,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":377255708909632,"gmtCreate":1733125970512,"gmtModify":1733125974902,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Dr rck, no worries. Ignore those sour grapes. They misswd the boat. Let them whine. The more they whine the more the price will go up","listText":"Dr rck, no worries. Ignore those sour grapes. They misswd the boat. Let them whine. The more they whine the more the price will go up","text":"Dr rck, no worries. Ignore those sour grapes. They misswd the boat. Let them whine. The more they whine the more the price will go up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/377255708909632","repostId":"2487522010","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2487522010","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1733122800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2487522010?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-02 15:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Up 38%, Is Tesla Stock a Buy?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2487522010","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla's stock has soared after Trump's presidential election victory.Can the automaker's operational performance keep up with its stratospheric valuation?","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s stock has soared after Trump&#39;s presidential election victory.</p></li><li><p>Can the automaker&#39;s operational performance keep up with its stratospheric valuation?</p></li></ul><p>With shares up 38% since Nov. 5, <strong>Tesla</strong> has been a huge beneficiary of Trump&#39;s presidential election victory. CEO Elon Musk played a key role in the campaign, and many investors believe his company stands to benefit from the new economic and regulatory framework.</p><p>That said, Tesla&#39;s situation isn&#39;t all peaches and cream. Let&#39;s discuss some pros and cons of investing in the stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_346472798\">Core automotive operations have matured</h2><p>While Tesla benefited tremendously from being an early mover to the electric vehicle (EV) opportunity, its edge in brand recognition and technology seems to be stalling. Third-quarter revenue grew by a measly 2% year over year to $20 billion -- a far cry from the 74% growth the company posted in the corresponding quarter three years ago.</p><p>To be fair, Tesla is a victim of its own success. The company&#39;s Model Y is the best-selling car on the planet, beating out established mass-market rivals like the <strong>Toyota</strong> Corolla or Rav4. The company&#39;s sheer scale will make it challenging to generate continued growth because most people who want a Tesla vehicle probably already have one.</p><p>The good news is that Tesla is still an exceptionally well-managed, lean business capable of maintaining its margins. Despite the flat revenue, the company increased its adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) by 24% to $4.7 billion. While the automotive business no longer looks like a key growth driver, it can serve as a stable cash cow as management pivots to other opportunities.</p><h2 id=\"id_1368929650\">What does Trump&#39;s reelection mean for Tesla?</h2><p>Elon Musk stumped for the Trump campaign and donated at least $132 million to the effort through his super PAC, America PAC. However, while Trump&#39;s victory has led to a surge in Tesla stock, it is unclear how the new administration&#39;s policies will impact the company&#39;s top and bottom lines.</p><p>According to Reuters, Trump&#39;s transition team aims to end the Biden-era tax credit for EVs. This $7,500 subsidy makes electric cars more affordable relative to their gas-consuming peers, likely helping their sales.</p><p>Trump has also promised to cut back on outsourced manufacturing, which could run contrary to Tesla&#39;s ambition to build a new factory in Mexico.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6d5caeb25b9a84a7060c68661ddd427f\" alt=\"Image source: Getty Images.\" title=\"Image source: Getty Images.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"393\"/><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p><p>All that said, Musk still seems confident in America&#39;s Trump-led future. And while the loss of subsidies could hurt demand for Tesla cars, Musk&#39;s company may be better able to compete in a more competitive environment because of its economies of scale and manufacturing expertise. The Trump administration could also ease some regulations around Tesla&#39;s other growth opportunities like self-driving cars, robotics, and artificial intelligence. These businesses could become increasingly important for Tesla as its EV growth continues to slow down.</p><h2 id=\"id_3834664770\">The valuation seems far too optimistic</h2><p>All in all, Tesla seems to be in a pretty neutral situation: not particularly good or bad. Core automotive growth has slowed dramatically, but margins and profitability remain strong. And while nonautomotive opportunities (like self-driving cars) could become key growth drivers, it could take years or even decades for that story to play out.</p><p>Trump&#39;s election victory also doesn&#39;t seem likely to significantly impact Tesla&#39;s near-term prospects. So, the recent rally seems overdone.</p><p>With a forward price-to-earnings (P/E) multiple of 103, Tesla&#39;s valuation looks very out of line with the company&#39;s fundamentals. And while it is still a fantastic company, it isn&#39;t a buy at this price. 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CEO Elon Musk played a key role in the campaign, and many investors believe his company stands to benefit from the new economic and regulatory framework.That said, Tesla's situation isn't all peaches and cream. Let's discuss some pros and cons of investing in the stock.Core automotive operations have maturedWhile Tesla benefited tremendously from being an early mover to the electric vehicle (EV) opportunity, its edge in brand recognition and technology seems to be stalling. Third-quarter revenue grew by a measly 2% year over year to $20 billion -- a far cry from the 74% growth the company posted in the corresponding quarter three years ago.To be fair, Tesla is a victim of its own success. The company's Model Y is the best-selling car on the planet, beating out established mass-market rivals like the Toyota Corolla or Rav4. The company's sheer scale will make it challenging to generate continued growth because most people who want a Tesla vehicle probably already have one.The good news is that Tesla is still an exceptionally well-managed, lean business capable of maintaining its margins. Despite the flat revenue, the company increased its adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) by 24% to $4.7 billion. While the automotive business no longer looks like a key growth driver, it can serve as a stable cash cow as management pivots to other opportunities.What does Trump's reelection mean for Tesla?Elon Musk stumped for the Trump campaign and donated at least $132 million to the effort through his super PAC, America PAC. However, while Trump's victory has led to a surge in Tesla stock, it is unclear how the new administration's policies will impact the company's top and bottom lines.According to Reuters, Trump's transition team aims to end the Biden-era tax credit for EVs. This $7,500 subsidy makes electric cars more affordable relative to their gas-consuming peers, likely helping their sales.Trump has also promised to cut back on outsourced manufacturing, which could run contrary to Tesla's ambition to build a new factory in Mexico.Image source: Getty Images.All that said, Musk still seems confident in America's Trump-led future. And while the loss of subsidies could hurt demand for Tesla cars, Musk's company may be better able to compete in a more competitive environment because of its economies of scale and manufacturing expertise. The Trump administration could also ease some regulations around Tesla's other growth opportunities like self-driving cars, robotics, and artificial intelligence. These businesses could become increasingly important for Tesla as its EV growth continues to slow down.The valuation seems far too optimisticAll in all, Tesla seems to be in a pretty neutral situation: not particularly good or bad. Core automotive growth has slowed dramatically, but margins and profitability remain strong. And while nonautomotive opportunities (like self-driving cars) could become key growth drivers, it could take years or even decades for that story to play out.Trump's election victory also doesn't seem likely to significantly impact Tesla's near-term prospects. So, the recent rally seems overdone.With a forward price-to-earnings (P/E) multiple of 103, Tesla's valuation looks very out of line with the company's fundamentals. And while it is still a fantastic company, it isn't a buy at this price. Investors should wait for a better entry point before considering a position in the stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":311,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":376960475943000,"gmtCreate":1733051095378,"gmtModify":1733051100179,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Try harder, pls","listText":"Try harder, pls","text":"Try harder, pls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/376960475943000","repostId":"2488665412","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2488665412","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1733043600,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2488665412?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-01 17:00","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2488665412","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla has generated a monster return in the past decade.The bulls are certain Tesla will one day operate a driverless robotaxi fleet.Tesla’s high valuation is becoming a headwind for investors.","content":"<html><body><ul>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla has generated a monster return in the past decade. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>The bulls are certain Tesla will one day operate a driverless robotaxi fleet. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla’s high valuation is becoming a headwind for investors. </div>\n</li>\n</ul><div><p><span>It will probably take you quite a while to find any businesses that have rewarded their investors quite like </span><strong><span>Tesla</span></strong><span> <span>(TSLA<span> 3.69%</span>)</span> has. Despite being on a volatile journey, the company's shares have soared 1,960% in the past 10 years. A $10,000 investment a decade ago would be worth $206,000 today (as of this writing) with that type of gain.</span></p><p><span>Right now, this electric-vehicle (EV) stock carries a monster </span><span>market cap</span><span> of $1.1 trillion, easily making it one of the most valuable companies on Earth. If you're looking to buy shares, you might be wondering where Tesla will be 10 years from now. Here's a look at the future of this business.</span></p><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Still a car company</span></h2><p><span>Tesla's stock performance can be partly attributed to the success of its disruptive and innovative culture. The company took the auto industry head-on with the release of its various EV models. And today, Tesla is a leader in this niche, with about 50% market share in the U.S.</span></p><p><span>It's no surprise that in the most recent quarter, 79% of Tesla's overall revenue came directly from the sale of cars. The business does have a budding energy generation and storage unit. However, EVs drive Tesla's financial performance. </span></p><p><span>I believe there's a significant likelihood that Tesla will remain a developer, manufacturer, and seller of EVs a decade from now. There's still a long way to go in terms of adoption, both domestically and abroad.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><p><span>But some investors might not like this perspective. That's because in recent times, Tesla has broken away from its hyper-growth days and now resembles a traditional automaker. Its revenue growth through the first nine months of 2024 was up just 0.5% year over year, and the Q3 </span><span>operating margin</span><span> of 10.8% was well below the figure from two years ago.</span></p><div><app :collapse_on_load=\"false\" :instrument_id=\"224257\" :show_benchmark_compare=\"false\" amount_change=\"12.27\" average_volume=\"88,713,848\" company_name=\"Tesla\" current_price=\"345.16\" daily_high=\"345.45\" daily_low=\"334.65\" default_period=\"FiveYear\" dividend_yield=\"N/A\" exchange=\"NASDAQ\" fifty_two_week_high=\"361.93\" fifty_two_week_low=\"138.80\" gross_margin=\"18.23\" logo=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/art/companylogos/mark/TSLA.png\" market_cap=\"$1,108B\" pe_ratio=\"94.55\" percent_change=\"3.69\" symbol=\"TSLA\" volume=\"37,167,621\"></app></div><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Transitioning to a software business</span></h2><p><span>Tesla's strongest bulls, as well as its founder and CEO Elon Musk, envision a totally different future. The company is working to one day launch and operate a global fleet of </span><span>self-driving robotaxis</span><span>. Tesla provided more info on this vision in early October, mentioning that it plans to start production of the smaller and cheaper CyberCabs in 2026.</span></p><div></div><p><span>Imagine a scenario where driverless Tesla EVs roam the streets, picking up and dropping off passengers at all hours of the day. By operating the software powering these cars, Tesla can earn a high-margin revenue stream. That's the ultimate plan, and if it comes to fruition, it could improve the financial picture for the business.</span></p><p><span>Musk has previously overpromised on his self-driving dreams, but fervent supporters believe that a favorable outcome is a certainty. I'm no expert on technological adoption curves or details about autonomous driving, although I do think it's impossible to know when, or if, it will happen. A big hurdle to overcome is the fear that humans have toward this technology, in addition to ongoing technical and regulatory uncertainty.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Steep valuation</span></h2><p><span>There might be no company out there that gets the attention that Tesla does. By operating at the cutting edge of various technologies -- like autonomous driving, robotics, and artificial intelligence -- Tesla is certainly an interesting business to follow. Plus, its visionary CEO is one of the most successful entrepreneurs we've ever seen and now has entered the political arena.</span></p><p><span>Consequently, Tesla won't ever fly under the radar. And maybe even worse, its status as a \"</span><span>story stock</span><span>\" means that the valuation can easily get detached from the underlying fundamentals. As of this writing, shares trade at a price-to-earnings ratio of 92.8. Clearly, the market has extremely high hopes for this company and where it could be in the future.</span></p><p><span>Based on the steep valuation, as well as the fact that Tesla remains nothing more than a car company today, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock underperforms the broader </span><strong><span>Nasdaq Composite</span></strong> index <span>over the next decade.</span></p><div></div></div></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Despite being on a volatile journey, the company's shares have soared 1,960% in the past 10 years. A $10,000 investment a decade ago would be worth $206,000 today (as of this writing) with that type of gain.Right now, this electric-vehicle (EV) stock carries a monster market cap of $1.1 trillion, easily making it one of the most valuable companies on Earth. If you're looking to buy shares, you might be wondering where Tesla will be 10 years from now. Here's a look at the future of this business.Still a car companyTesla's stock performance can be partly attributed to the success of its disruptive and innovative culture. The company took the auto industry head-on with the release of its various EV models. And today, Tesla is a leader in this niche, with about 50% market share in the U.S.It's no surprise that in the most recent quarter, 79% of Tesla's overall revenue came directly from the sale of cars. The business does have a budding energy generation and storage unit. However, EVs drive Tesla's financial performance. I believe there's a significant likelihood that Tesla will remain a developer, manufacturer, and seller of EVs a decade from now. There's still a long way to go in terms of adoption, both domestically and abroad.But some investors might not like this perspective. That's because in recent times, Tesla has broken away from its hyper-growth days and now resembles a traditional automaker. Its revenue growth through the first nine months of 2024 was up just 0.5% year over year, and the Q3 operating margin of 10.8% was well below the figure from two years ago.Transitioning to a software businessTesla's strongest bulls, as well as its founder and CEO Elon Musk, envision a totally different future. The company is working to one day launch and operate a global fleet of self-driving robotaxis. Tesla provided more info on this vision in early October, mentioning that it plans to start production of the smaller and cheaper CyberCabs in 2026.Imagine a scenario where driverless Tesla EVs roam the streets, picking up and dropping off passengers at all hours of the day. By operating the software powering these cars, Tesla can earn a high-margin revenue stream. That's the ultimate plan, and if it comes to fruition, it could improve the financial picture for the business.Musk has previously overpromised on his self-driving dreams, but fervent supporters believe that a favorable outcome is a certainty. I'm no expert on technological adoption curves or details about autonomous driving, although I do think it's impossible to know when, or if, it will happen. A big hurdle to overcome is the fear that humans have toward this technology, in addition to ongoing technical and regulatory uncertainty.Steep valuationThere might be no company out there that gets the attention that Tesla does. By operating at the cutting edge of various technologies -- like autonomous driving, robotics, and artificial intelligence -- Tesla is certainly an interesting business to follow. Plus, its visionary CEO is one of the most successful entrepreneurs we've ever seen and now has entered the political arena.Consequently, Tesla won't ever fly under the radar. And maybe even worse, its status as a \"story stock\" means that the valuation can easily get detached from the underlying fundamentals. As of this writing, shares trade at a price-to-earnings ratio of 92.8. Clearly, the market has extremely high hopes for this company and where it could be in the future.Based on the steep valuation, as well as the fact that Tesla remains nothing more than a car company today, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock underperforms the broader Nasdaq Composite index over the next decade.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":270,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":376866122080384,"gmtCreate":1733051084980,"gmtModify":1733051089089,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Typical sour grapes write up","listText":"Typical sour grapes write up","text":"Typical sour grapes write up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/376866122080384","repostId":"2488665412","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2488665412","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1733043600,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2488665412?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-01 17:00","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2488665412","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla has generated a monster return in the past decade.The bulls are certain Tesla will one day operate a driverless robotaxi fleet.Tesla’s high valuation is becoming a headwind for investors.","content":"<html><body><ul>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla has generated a monster return in the past decade. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>The bulls are certain Tesla will one day operate a driverless robotaxi fleet. </div>\n</li>\n<li>\n<div>\n<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"15\" viewbox=\"0 0 14 15\" width=\"14\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n<path d=\"M14 5.58984C14 2.91016 11.8398 0.75 9.16016 0.75C6.50781 0.777344 4.375 2.91016 4.375 5.5625C4.375 6.10938 4.45703 6.60156 4.59375 7.09375L0.191406 11.4961C0.0546875 11.6328 0 11.7969 0 11.9609V14.0938C0 14.4766 0.273438 14.75 0.65625 14.75H3.71875C4.07422 14.75 4.375 14.4766 4.375 14.0938V13H5.46875C5.82422 13 6.125 12.7266 6.125 12.3438V11.25H7.13672C7.30078 11.25 7.51953 11.168 7.62891 11.0312L8.28516 10.293C8.55859 10.3477 8.85938 10.375 9.1875 10.375C11.8398 10.375 14 8.24219 14 5.58984ZM9.1875 4.25C9.1875 3.53906 9.76172 2.9375 10.5 2.9375C11.2109 2.9375 11.8125 3.53906 11.8125 4.25C11.8125 4.98828 11.2109 5.5625 10.5 5.5625C9.76172 5.5625 9.1875 4.98828 9.1875 4.25Z\" fill=\"#FFB81C\"></path>\n</svg>\n</div>\n<div>Tesla’s high valuation is becoming a headwind for investors. </div>\n</li>\n</ul><div><p><span>It will probably take you quite a while to find any businesses that have rewarded their investors quite like </span><strong><span>Tesla</span></strong><span> <span>(TSLA<span> 3.69%</span>)</span> has. Despite being on a volatile journey, the company's shares have soared 1,960% in the past 10 years. A $10,000 investment a decade ago would be worth $206,000 today (as of this writing) with that type of gain.</span></p><p><span>Right now, this electric-vehicle (EV) stock carries a monster </span><span>market cap</span><span> of $1.1 trillion, easily making it one of the most valuable companies on Earth. If you're looking to buy shares, you might be wondering where Tesla will be 10 years from now. Here's a look at the future of this business.</span></p><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Still a car company</span></h2><p><span>Tesla's stock performance can be partly attributed to the success of its disruptive and innovative culture. The company took the auto industry head-on with the release of its various EV models. And today, Tesla is a leader in this niche, with about 50% market share in the U.S.</span></p><p><span>It's no surprise that in the most recent quarter, 79% of Tesla's overall revenue came directly from the sale of cars. The business does have a budding energy generation and storage unit. However, EVs drive Tesla's financial performance. </span></p><p><span>I believe there's a significant likelihood that Tesla will remain a developer, manufacturer, and seller of EVs a decade from now. There's still a long way to go in terms of adoption, both domestically and abroad.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><p><span>But some investors might not like this perspective. That's because in recent times, Tesla has broken away from its hyper-growth days and now resembles a traditional automaker. Its revenue growth through the first nine months of 2024 was up just 0.5% year over year, and the Q3 </span><span>operating margin</span><span> of 10.8% was well below the figure from two years ago.</span></p><div><app :collapse_on_load=\"false\" :instrument_id=\"224257\" :show_benchmark_compare=\"false\" amount_change=\"12.27\" average_volume=\"88,713,848\" company_name=\"Tesla\" current_price=\"345.16\" daily_high=\"345.45\" daily_low=\"334.65\" default_period=\"FiveYear\" dividend_yield=\"N/A\" exchange=\"NASDAQ\" fifty_two_week_high=\"361.93\" fifty_two_week_low=\"138.80\" gross_margin=\"18.23\" logo=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/art/companylogos/mark/TSLA.png\" market_cap=\"$1,108B\" pe_ratio=\"94.55\" percent_change=\"3.69\" symbol=\"TSLA\" volume=\"37,167,621\"></app></div><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Transitioning to a software business</span></h2><p><span>Tesla's strongest bulls, as well as its founder and CEO Elon Musk, envision a totally different future. The company is working to one day launch and operate a global fleet of </span><span>self-driving robotaxis</span><span>. Tesla provided more info on this vision in early October, mentioning that it plans to start production of the smaller and cheaper CyberCabs in 2026.</span></p><div></div><p><span>Imagine a scenario where driverless Tesla EVs roam the streets, picking up and dropping off passengers at all hours of the day. By operating the software powering these cars, Tesla can earn a high-margin revenue stream. That's the ultimate plan, and if it comes to fruition, it could improve the financial picture for the business.</span></p><p><span>Musk has previously overpromised on his self-driving dreams, but fervent supporters believe that a favorable outcome is a certainty. I'm no expert on technological adoption curves or details about autonomous driving, although I do think it's impossible to know when, or if, it will happen. A big hurdle to overcome is the fear that humans have toward this technology, in addition to ongoing technical and regulatory uncertainty.</span></p><div><div><div></div></div></div><h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span>Steep valuation</span></h2><p><span>There might be no company out there that gets the attention that Tesla does. By operating at the cutting edge of various technologies -- like autonomous driving, robotics, and artificial intelligence -- Tesla is certainly an interesting business to follow. Plus, its visionary CEO is one of the most successful entrepreneurs we've ever seen and now has entered the political arena.</span></p><p><span>Consequently, Tesla won't ever fly under the radar. And maybe even worse, its status as a \"</span><span>story stock</span><span>\" means that the valuation can easily get detached from the underlying fundamentals. As of this writing, shares trade at a price-to-earnings ratio of 92.8. Clearly, the market has extremely high hopes for this company and where it could be in the future.</span></p><p><span>Based on the steep valuation, as well as the fact that Tesla remains nothing more than a car company today, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock underperforms the broader </span><strong><span>Nasdaq Composite</span></strong> index <span>over the next decade.</span></p><div></div></div></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Where Will Tesla Be in 10 Years?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Despite being on a volatile journey, the company's shares have soared 1,960% in the past 10 years. A $10,000 investment a decade ago would be worth $206,000 today (as of this writing) with that type of gain.Right now, this electric-vehicle (EV) stock carries a monster market cap of $1.1 trillion, easily making it one of the most valuable companies on Earth. If you're looking to buy shares, you might be wondering where Tesla will be 10 years from now. Here's a look at the future of this business.Still a car companyTesla's stock performance can be partly attributed to the success of its disruptive and innovative culture. The company took the auto industry head-on with the release of its various EV models. And today, Tesla is a leader in this niche, with about 50% market share in the U.S.It's no surprise that in the most recent quarter, 79% of Tesla's overall revenue came directly from the sale of cars. The business does have a budding energy generation and storage unit. However, EVs drive Tesla's financial performance. I believe there's a significant likelihood that Tesla will remain a developer, manufacturer, and seller of EVs a decade from now. There's still a long way to go in terms of adoption, both domestically and abroad.But some investors might not like this perspective. That's because in recent times, Tesla has broken away from its hyper-growth days and now resembles a traditional automaker. Its revenue growth through the first nine months of 2024 was up just 0.5% year over year, and the Q3 operating margin of 10.8% was well below the figure from two years ago.Transitioning to a software businessTesla's strongest bulls, as well as its founder and CEO Elon Musk, envision a totally different future. The company is working to one day launch and operate a global fleet of self-driving robotaxis. Tesla provided more info on this vision in early October, mentioning that it plans to start production of the smaller and cheaper CyberCabs in 2026.Imagine a scenario where driverless Tesla EVs roam the streets, picking up and dropping off passengers at all hours of the day. By operating the software powering these cars, Tesla can earn a high-margin revenue stream. That's the ultimate plan, and if it comes to fruition, it could improve the financial picture for the business.Musk has previously overpromised on his self-driving dreams, but fervent supporters believe that a favorable outcome is a certainty. I'm no expert on technological adoption curves or details about autonomous driving, although I do think it's impossible to know when, or if, it will happen. A big hurdle to overcome is the fear that humans have toward this technology, in addition to ongoing technical and regulatory uncertainty.Steep valuationThere might be no company out there that gets the attention that Tesla does. By operating at the cutting edge of various technologies -- like autonomous driving, robotics, and artificial intelligence -- Tesla is certainly an interesting business to follow. Plus, its visionary CEO is one of the most successful entrepreneurs we've ever seen and now has entered the political arena.Consequently, Tesla won't ever fly under the radar. And maybe even worse, its status as a \"story stock\" means that the valuation can easily get detached from the underlying fundamentals. As of this writing, shares trade at a price-to-earnings ratio of 92.8. Clearly, the market has extremely high hopes for this company and where it could be in the future.Based on the steep valuation, as well as the fact that Tesla remains nothing more than a car company today, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock underperforms the broader Nasdaq Composite index over the next decade.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":310,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":376810368757888,"gmtCreate":1733037473328,"gmtModify":1733038427573,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Shit stirrer......and sour grapes","listText":"Shit stirrer......and sour grapes","text":"Shit stirrer......and sour grapes","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/376810368757888","repostId":"2487471577","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2487471577","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1732977720,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2487471577?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-30 22:42","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Americans may think twice when Musk and Ramaswamy try to break the things they value","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2487471577","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Trump's DOGE leaders look for inspiration from Javier Milei, Argentina's chainsaw-wielding president. Now THIS is a math problem. U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's new \"efficiency czars\" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy think they can slash $2 trillion from the federal budget of about $6.75 trillion over the next year and a half. I admire these co-chiefs of Trump's new \"DOGE\"  and wish them well.Just one catch. Trump says about two-thirds of that vast sum is off limits and can't be touched. Which means the $2 trillion in cuts will have to come from the remaining $2.37 trillion or so that Trump says is up for grabs.I mentioned Reagan. In his 1981 Inaugural address he famously said that \"government is the problem,\" and he soon launched a task force, made up of \"outstanding experts from the private sector\" who would conduct a top to bottom review of the government and make recommendations for eliminat","content":"<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\nMW Americans may think twice when Musk and Ramaswamy try to break the things they value\n</p>\n<p>\n  By Paul Brandus \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's DOGE leaders look for inspiration from Javier Milei, Argentina's chainsaw-wielding president \n</p>\n<p>\n     Now THIS is a math problem. U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's new \"efficiency czars\" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy think they can slash $2 trillion from the federal budget of about $6.75 trillion over the next year and a half. I admire these co-chiefs of Trump's new \"DOGE\" (Department of Government Efficiency) and wish them well. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Just one catch. Trump says about two-thirds of that vast sum is off limits and can't be touched. Which means the $2 trillion in cuts will have to come from the remaining $2.37 trillion or so that Trump says is up for grabs. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Two trillion out of that? That's an 84% wipeout. So my question for you is this: What are you willing to give up? Consider what falls into that $2.37 trillion basket. Food safety inspectors. Fixing that old, rusty bridge you drive over each day. Cancer research. Airport security. And you should hope there won't be any more floods, fires, hurricanes or earthquakes, because federal disaster relief is included here as well - along with countless other things that Americans probably take for granted. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump, Musk and Ramaswamy have already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Obviously, spending cuts of this magnitude aren't going to happen. We need a safe food supply, clean water and all the rest. No serious person questions the need for airport security. And helping a neighbor in need? This is what we do. \"After all,\" as former President Ronald Reagan said, \"We are Americans.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     This reality bumps against a honeymoon-like glow that hovers over the president-elect, Musk and Ramaswamy. They've already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. It happens all the time: In the immediate days after an election victory, the cheers are loud and the potential for change seems boundless. But the nitty-gritty details of governing eventually intrude, and, to use one of Musk's favorite words, \"externalities\" occur which have to be dealt with. Before long, the next election (now 23 months away) rolls around, and attention turns to that. \n</p>\n<p>\n     And so Musk, Tesla's <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> CEO,  and Ramaswamy, a serial entrepreneur, face not just a math problem, but a calendar one as well. Men like this live by the creed to move fast and break things. I'm sure they'll do both. But their effort could play out in two ways, one of which could have lasting effects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     I mentioned Reagan. In his 1981 Inaugural address he famously said that \"government is the problem,\" and he soon launched a task force, made up of \"outstanding experts from the private sector\" who would conduct a top to bottom review of the government and make recommendations for eliminating waste and inefficiency. It was called the Grace Commission, and within two years it gave Reagan a list of some 2,500 action items. It was music to the ears of conservatives. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So what happened? By the time Reagan left office in January 1989, the federal workforce hadn't gotten any smaller. In fact, according to the St, Louis Federal Reserve, it had grown almost 7%, to 3.16 million. The national debt meanwhile, tripled. After leaving office, Reagan said the explosive rise in debt in his watch was \"greatest disappointment\" of his presidency. If he hadn't signed a massive Social Security tax hike in 1983, it would have been even worse. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Will America follow Argentina's path? \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's one way. The other way the DOGE effort could play out involves a certain visitor to Trump at Mar-a-Lago last week, Argentina's President Javier Milei. Speaking of moving fast and breaking things, that's exactly what Milei has done in Argentina. Brandishing a chainsaw as a symbol of his determination to slash spending, the far-right Argentine leader (he's also an economist) hasn't even been in power for a year, but has already slashed spending, shut down entire ministries and fired thousands of civil servants. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Has it worked? Judge for yourself: A Reuters report says Milei's scorched earth tactics have \"tamped down triple-digit inflation, rebuilt central bank reserves, overturned a deep fiscal deficit\" and more. But a separate report by the same news agency also notes that Argentina's economy has now contracted for five consecutive quarters, \"pushing the embattled South American nation deeper into recession.\" Civil unrest and labor strikes have also grown, adding to instability. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This unrest notwithstanding, investors have responded favorably. Since Milei took office almost a year ago, Argentina's Merval, a large-cap stock index, has more than doubled. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EFFE\">Global X</a> MSCI Argentina ARGT, an exchange-traded fund, has jumped 60%. Argentine bonds, long wallowing in distressed territory, have racked up sharp gains as the country's interest rates have fallen. But Argentina is hardly out of the woods: Even after a sharp cut three weeks ago, the central bank's benchmark rate - equivalent to the U.S. Federal Reserve's fed funds rate - remains a lofty 35%. But it was a staggering 113% a year ago. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Milei's chainsaw tactics have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that it one day could be. \n</p>\n<p>\n     There can be no doubt that Milei's chainsaw tactics - financial triage if you will - have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that with runaway federal spending and soaring debt, it one day could be. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Which is why Milei - who has been friends with Musk for some time - has urged him and Ramaswamy to wield chainsaws of their own. \"Go all the way,\" he said, summarizing his advice for the DOGE chiefs on a recent podcast. \"Cut to the very limit.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Milei, an inspiring figure for Musk and Ramaswamy, ha? moved fast. He has broken things. But what will the long-term impact be for Argentinians, and when will Argentina pull out of its economic tailspin? Such questions are unanswerable, as they are for the task that the DOGE boys are about to undertake. Two things seem clear, however: The math appears daunting, and political honeymoons tend to be short-lived. The clock is ticking. \n</p>\n<p>\n     -Paul Brandus \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by MarketWatch, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's new \"efficiency czars\" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy think they can slash $2 trillion from the federal budget of about $6.75 trillion over the next year and a half. I admire these co-chiefs of Trump's new \"DOGE\" (Department of Government Efficiency) and wish them well. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Just one catch. Trump says about two-thirds of that vast sum is off limits and can't be touched. Which means the $2 trillion in cuts will have to come from the remaining $2.37 trillion or so that Trump says is up for grabs. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Two trillion out of that? That's an 84% wipeout. So my question for you is this: What are you willing to give up? Consider what falls into that $2.37 trillion basket. Food safety inspectors. Fixing that old, rusty bridge you drive over each day. Cancer research. Airport security. And you should hope there won't be any more floods, fires, hurricanes or earthquakes, because federal disaster relief is included here as well - along with countless other things that Americans probably take for granted. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump, Musk and Ramaswamy have already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Obviously, spending cuts of this magnitude aren't going to happen. We need a safe food supply, clean water and all the rest. No serious person questions the need for airport security. And helping a neighbor in need? This is what we do. \"After all,\" as former President Ronald Reagan said, \"We are Americans.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     This reality bumps against a honeymoon-like glow that hovers over the president-elect, Musk and Ramaswamy. They've already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. It happens all the time: In the immediate days after an election victory, the cheers are loud and the potential for change seems boundless. But the nitty-gritty details of governing eventually intrude, and, to use one of Musk's favorite words, \"externalities\" occur which have to be dealt with. Before long, the next election (now 23 months away) rolls around, and attention turns to that. \n</p>\n<p>\n     And so Musk, Tesla's <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> CEO,  and Ramaswamy, a serial entrepreneur, face not just a math problem, but a calendar one as well. Men like this live by the creed to move fast and break things. I'm sure they'll do both. But their effort could play out in two ways, one of which could have lasting effects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     I mentioned Reagan. In his 1981 Inaugural address he famously said that \"government is the problem,\" and he soon launched a task force, made up of \"outstanding experts from the private sector\" who would conduct a top to bottom review of the government and make recommendations for eliminating waste and inefficiency. It was called the Grace Commission, and within two years it gave Reagan a list of some 2,500 action items. It was music to the ears of conservatives. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So what happened? By the time Reagan left office in January 1989, the federal workforce hadn't gotten any smaller. In fact, according to the St, Louis Federal Reserve, it had grown almost 7%, to 3.16 million. The national debt meanwhile, tripled. After leaving office, Reagan said the explosive rise in debt in his watch was \"greatest disappointment\" of his presidency. If he hadn't signed a massive Social Security tax hike in 1983, it would have been even worse. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Will America follow Argentina's path? \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's one way. The other way the DOGE effort could play out involves a certain visitor to Trump at Mar-a-Lago last week, Argentina's President Javier Milei. Speaking of moving fast and breaking things, that's exactly what Milei has done in Argentina. Brandishing a chainsaw as a symbol of his determination to slash spending, the far-right Argentine leader (he's also an economist) hasn't even been in power for a year, but has already slashed spending, shut down entire ministries and fired thousands of civil servants. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Has it worked? Judge for yourself: A Reuters report says Milei's scorched earth tactics have \"tamped down triple-digit inflation, rebuilt central bank reserves, overturned a deep fiscal deficit\" and more. But a separate report by the same news agency also notes that Argentina's economy has now contracted for five consecutive quarters, \"pushing the embattled South American nation deeper into recession.\" Civil unrest and labor strikes have also grown, adding to instability. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This unrest notwithstanding, investors have responded favorably. Since Milei took office almost a year ago, Argentina's Merval, a large-cap stock index, has more than doubled. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EFFE\">Global X</a> MSCI Argentina ARGT, an exchange-traded fund, has jumped 60%. Argentine bonds, long wallowing in distressed territory, have racked up sharp gains as the country's interest rates have fallen. But Argentina is hardly out of the woods: Even after a sharp cut three weeks ago, the central bank's benchmark rate - equivalent to the U.S. Federal Reserve's fed funds rate - remains a lofty 35%. But it was a staggering 113% a year ago. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Milei's chainsaw tactics have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that it one day could be. \n</p>\n<p>\n     There can be no doubt that Milei's chainsaw tactics - financial triage if you will - have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that with runaway federal spending and soaring debt, it one day could be. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Which is why Milei - who has been friends with Musk for some time - has urged him and Ramaswamy to wield chainsaws of their own. \"Go all the way,\" he said, summarizing his advice for the DOGE chiefs on a recent podcast. \"Cut to the very limit.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Milei, an inspiring figure for Musk and Ramaswamy, ha? moved fast. He has broken things. But what will the long-term impact be for Argentinians, and when will Argentina pull out of its economic tailspin? Such questions are unanswerable, as they are for the task that the DOGE boys are about to undertake. Two things seem clear, however: The math appears daunting, and political honeymoons tend to be short-lived. The clock is ticking. \n</p>\n<p>\n     -Paul Brandus \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by MarketWatch, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's new \"efficiency czars\" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy think they can slash $2 trillion from the federal budget of about $6.75 trillion over the next year and a half. I admire these co-chiefs of Trump's new \"DOGE\" (Department of Government Efficiency) and wish them well. \n\n\n     Just one catch. Trump says about two-thirds of that vast sum is off limits and can't be touched. Which means the $2 trillion in cuts will have to come from the remaining $2.37 trillion or so that Trump says is up for grabs. \n\n\n     Two trillion out of that? That's an 84% wipeout. So my question for you is this: What are you willing to give up? Consider what falls into that $2.37 trillion basket. Food safety inspectors. Fixing that old, rusty bridge you drive over each day. Cancer research. Airport security. And you should hope there won't be any more floods, fires, hurricanes or earthquakes, because federal disaster relief is included here as well - along with countless other things that Americans probably take for granted. \n\n\n     Trump, Musk and Ramaswamy have already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. \n\n\n     Obviously, spending cuts of this magnitude aren't going to happen. We need a safe food supply, clean water and all the rest. No serious person questions the need for airport security. And helping a neighbor in need? This is what we do. \"After all,\" as former President Ronald Reagan said, \"We are Americans.\" \n\n\n     This reality bumps against a honeymoon-like glow that hovers over the president-elect, Musk and Ramaswamy. They've already made the classic Washington mistake of overpromising, thus setting themselves up for underdelivering. It happens all the time: In the immediate days after an election victory, the cheers are loud and the potential for change seems boundless. But the nitty-gritty details of governing eventually intrude, and, to use one of Musk's favorite words, \"externalities\" occur which have to be dealt with. Before long, the next election (now 23 months away) rolls around, and attention turns to that. \n\n\n     And so Musk, Tesla's $(TSLA)$ CEO,  and Ramaswamy, a serial entrepreneur, face not just a math problem, but a calendar one as well. Men like this live by the creed to move fast and break things. I'm sure they'll do both. But their effort could play out in two ways, one of which could have lasting effects. \n\n\n     I mentioned Reagan. In his 1981 Inaugural address he famously said that \"government is the problem,\" and he soon launched a task force, made up of \"outstanding experts from the private sector\" who would conduct a top to bottom review of the government and make recommendations for eliminating waste and inefficiency. It was called the Grace Commission, and within two years it gave Reagan a list of some 2,500 action items. It was music to the ears of conservatives. \n\n\n     So what happened? By the time Reagan left office in January 1989, the federal workforce hadn't gotten any smaller. In fact, according to the St, Louis Federal Reserve, it had grown almost 7%, to 3.16 million. The national debt meanwhile, tripled. After leaving office, Reagan said the explosive rise in debt in his watch was \"greatest disappointment\" of his presidency. If he hadn't signed a massive Social Security tax hike in 1983, it would have been even worse. \n\n\n     Will America follow Argentina's path? \n\n\n     That's one way. The other way the DOGE effort could play out involves a certain visitor to Trump at Mar-a-Lago last week, Argentina's President Javier Milei. Speaking of moving fast and breaking things, that's exactly what Milei has done in Argentina. Brandishing a chainsaw as a symbol of his determination to slash spending, the far-right Argentine leader (he's also an economist) hasn't even been in power for a year, but has already slashed spending, shut down entire ministries and fired thousands of civil servants. \n\n\n     Has it worked? Judge for yourself: A Reuters report says Milei's scorched earth tactics have \"tamped down triple-digit inflation, rebuilt central bank reserves, overturned a deep fiscal deficit\" and more. But a separate report by the same news agency also notes that Argentina's economy has now contracted for five consecutive quarters, \"pushing the embattled South American nation deeper into recession.\" Civil unrest and labor strikes have also grown, adding to instability. \n\n\n     This unrest notwithstanding, investors have responded favorably. Since Milei took office almost a year ago, Argentina's Merval, a large-cap stock index, has more than doubled. Global X MSCI Argentina ARGT, an exchange-traded fund, has jumped 60%. Argentine bonds, long wallowing in distressed territory, have racked up sharp gains as the country's interest rates have fallen. But Argentina is hardly out of the woods: Even after a sharp cut three weeks ago, the central bank's benchmark rate - equivalent to the U.S. Federal Reserve's fed funds rate - remains a lofty 35%. But it was a staggering 113% a year ago. \n\n\n     Milei's chainsaw tactics have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that it one day could be. \n\n\n     There can be no doubt that Milei's chainsaw tactics - financial triage if you will - have righted the ship. Of course, the U.S. economy is hardly like Argentina's, but the fear is that with runaway federal spending and soaring debt, it one day could be. \n\n\n     Which is why Milei - who has been friends with Musk for some time - has urged him and Ramaswamy to wield chainsaws of their own. \"Go all the way,\" he said, summarizing his advice for the DOGE chiefs on a recent podcast. \"Cut to the very limit.\" \n\n\n     Milei, an inspiring figure for Musk and Ramaswamy, ha? moved fast. He has broken things. But what will the long-term impact be for Argentinians, and when will Argentina pull out of its economic tailspin? Such questions are unanswerable, as they are for the task that the DOGE boys are about to undertake. Two things seem clear, however: The math appears daunting, and political honeymoons tend to be short-lived. The clock is ticking. \n\n\n     -Paul Brandus \n\n\n     This content was created by MarketWatch, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. 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Likely the writer did not enjoy the wave....so now become a sour graoe....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/364197540741128","repostId":"2478918073","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":276,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":363856726814784,"gmtCreate":1729842448105,"gmtModify":1729842453020,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Life is so strange. When something is doing well, in this case Tesla, pple must always say negative things. Talk down on it. I alw wonder why such pple exiist","listText":"Life is so strange. When something is doing well, in this case Tesla, pple must always say negative things. Talk down on it. I alw wonder why such pple exiist","text":"Life is so strange. When something is doing well, in this case Tesla, pple must always say negative things. Talk down on it. I alw wonder why such pple exiist","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/363856726814784","repostId":"2478675257","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":625,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3582683567420632","authorId":"3582683567420632","name":"Manz","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/028b318b3937081b46413a5ddeba2efb","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3582683567420632","authorIdStr":"3582683567420632"},"content":"market makers aka market manipulators. avoid short term noise and follow fundamentals","text":"market makers aka market manipulators. avoid short term noise and follow fundamentals","html":"market makers aka market manipulators. avoid short term noise and follow fundamentals"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386655131906528,"gmtCreate":1735408351841,"gmtModify":1735443164506,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","listText":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","text":"So many sour grapes trying to bring Elon Musk down.....humans just cannot see that someone else is doing better than them....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386655131906528","repostId":"2495349262","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2495349262","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735405213,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2495349262?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-29 01:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... He Wasn't Born In This Country'","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2495349262","media":"Benzinga","summary":"President-elect Donald Trump has addressed speculation about Tesla Inc.  CEO Elon Musk’s growing political influence.What Happened: On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”Why It Matters: Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson's  proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.Democrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.This article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe .","content":"<html><body><img height=\"675\" src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/RscuLPtTBu6lYVLsngsC_g--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/Benzinga/75d9fe46e7a67d2bc8638effd71f9f2c\" width=\"1200\"/>\n<p>President-elect <strong>Donald Trump</strong> has addressed speculation about <strong>Tesla Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) CEO <strong>Elon Musk’s</strong> growing political influence.</p>\n<p><strong>What Happened:</strong> On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.</p>\n<p>“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”</p>\n<p><strong>Don't Miss:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>The average American couple has saved this much money for retirement —<strong> </strong><strong>How do you compare</strong>?</strong></li>\n<li><strong>Can you guess how many Americans successfully retire with $1,000,000 saved?<strong> The percentage may shock you</strong>.</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Why It Matters:</strong> Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker <strong>Mike Johnson's</strong> (R-La.) proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.</p>\n<p>Democrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.</p>\n<p>A separate NBC report indicated that the Tesla CEO’s increasing presence in political circles has raised concerns among national security experts about potential conflicts of interest, given his extensive business dealings with foreign governments.</p>\n<p>His companies maintain significant government contracts, with <strong>SpaceX</strong> providing critical services to NASA and the Pentagon.</p>\n<p><strong>See Also: Maker of the $60,000 foldable home has 3 factory buildings, 600+ houses built, and big plans to solve housing —<strong> </strong><strong>you can become an investor for $0.80 per share today.</strong></strong></p>\n<p>Tesla’s substantial manufacturing presence in China, where the company operates its Gigafactory Shanghai facility, has also drawn particular scrutiny.</p>\n<p>The company currently dominates the U.S. electric vehicle market with nearly 50% market share.</p>\n<p>Sen. <strong>Ben Cardin</strong> (D-Md.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, expressed concern about Musk’s dual roles.</p>\n<p>“I think he has incredible conflicts,” Cardin told the publication. “His association with the president-elect has already profited him as far as his personal assets are concerned.”</p>\n<p><strong>Read Next:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Many are using retirement income calculators to check if they’re on pace —<strong> </strong><strong>here’s a breakdown on what’s behind this formula.</strong></strong></li>\n<li><strong>Can you guess how many retire with a $5,000,000 nest egg? <strong>The percentage may shock you</strong>.</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<p>Up Next: Transform your trading with Benzinga Edge's one-of-a-kind market trade ideas and tools. <strong>Click now to access unique insights</strong> that can set you ahead in today's competitive market.</p>\n<p>Get the latest stock analysis from Benzinga?</p>\n<ul></ul>\n<p>This article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... He Wasn't Born In This Country' originally appeared on Benzinga.com</p></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) CEO Elon Musk’s growing political influence.\nWhat Happened: On Sunday, speaking at Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest conference, Trump dismissed suggestions that he had “ceded the presidency” to Musk, pointing to the Constitution’s natural-born citizen requirement, reported NBC.\n“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump stated. “And I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country.”\nDon't Miss:\n\nThe average American couple has saved this much money for retirement — How do you compare?\nCan you guess how many Americans successfully retire with $1,000,000 saved? The percentage may shock you.\n\nWhy It Matters: Earlier this week, Trump and Musk played a key role in derailing Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson's (R-La.) proposed emergency spending measure, forcing lawmakers to scramble for a last-minute alternative to avoid a government shutdown.\nDemocrats have jokingly dubbed Musk “President Musk” due to his growing political influence. Musk had spent more than $250 million on Trump's campaign, noted NBC.\nA separate NBC report indicated that the Tesla CEO’s increasing presence in political circles has raised concerns among national security experts about potential conflicts of interest, given his extensive business dealings with foreign governments.\nHis companies maintain significant government contracts, with SpaceX providing critical services to NASA and the Pentagon.\nSee Also: Maker of the $60,000 foldable home has 3 factory buildings, 600+ houses built, and big plans to solve housing — you can become an investor for $0.80 per share today.\nTesla’s substantial manufacturing presence in China, where the company operates its Gigafactory Shanghai facility, has also drawn particular scrutiny.\nThe company currently dominates the U.S. electric vehicle market with nearly 50% market share.\nSen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, expressed concern about Musk’s dual roles.\n“I think he has incredible conflicts,” Cardin told the publication. “His association with the president-elect has already profited him as far as his personal assets are concerned.”\nRead Next:\n\nMany are using retirement income calculators to check if they’re on pace — here’s a breakdown on what’s behind this formula.\nCan you guess how many retire with a $5,000,000 nest egg? The percentage may shock you.\n\nUp Next: Transform your trading with Benzinga Edge's one-of-a-kind market trade ideas and tools. Click now to access unique insights that can set you ahead in today's competitive market.\nGet the latest stock analysis from Benzinga?\n\nThis article Trump Fires Back At Critics, Denies Ceding Presidency To Elon Musk: 'I'm Safe ... He Wasn't Born In This Country' originally appeared on Benzinga.com","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":782,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":371692157960480,"gmtCreate":1731754275036,"gmtModify":1731755797612,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Pls try harder, u F loser","listText":"Pls try harder, u F loser","text":"Pls try harder, u F loser","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/371692157960480","repostId":"2483945685","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2483945685","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1731804456,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2483945685?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-17 08:47","market":"other","language":"en","title":"The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2483945685","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-17 08:47</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","BK4099":"汽车制造商","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4107":"财产与意外伤害保险","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4117":"多元化保险"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2483945685","content_text":"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?\"I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,\" Musk said a few weeks ago. \"It would be silly.\"Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don't think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn't alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\"That market sucks,\" Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called \"Bold Names.\"Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.\"That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,\" he said of the low-price EVs. \"To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.\"Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we've swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla's ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that's before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.\"As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,\" Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. \"Now we just don't have\" these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota's Corolla, Kia's Forte, Nissan's Sentra and Chevrolet's Trax.It isn't as though people don't want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives' stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers' setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they're accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.\"The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,\" Musk told analysts in October. \"It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it's like excruciating.\"He added: \"There's not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":201,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":367731655581920,"gmtCreate":1730796075292,"gmtModify":1730796079221,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Look at the price.....been dropping for past 4 days!","listText":"Look at the price.....been dropping for past 4 days!","text":"Look at the price.....been dropping for past 4 days!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/367731655581920","repostId":"2481535034","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":172,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4171900329979952","authorId":"4171900329979952","name":"Barcode","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6688d8fb4c2a255e3b901e79755e56df","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4171900329979952","authorIdStr":"4171900329979952"},"content":"Your privates still dropping private? 🤣","text":"Your privates still dropping private? 🤣","html":"Your privates still dropping private? 🤣"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":363860823785728,"gmtCreate":1729843545182,"gmtModify":1729843548997,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sour grapes????","listText":"Sour grapes????","text":"Sour grapes????","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/363860823785728","repostId":"1144739433","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":468,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":387577642750144,"gmtCreate":1735653999783,"gmtModify":1735654751820,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Such a loser and sour grape","listText":"Such a loser and sour grape","text":"Such a loser and sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/387577642750144","repostId":"1178448143","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1178448143","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1735655931,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1178448143?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-31 22:38","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Surge Runs Up Against a Potential Annual Sales Drop","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1178448143","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"EV maker marks down key models to pull off record quarterMany analysts are nevertheless bracing for a 2024 declineThe carmaker added more than $733 billion in market capitalization fromElection Daythr","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>For all the exuberance about Tesla Inc. benefiting from Donald Trump’s return to the White House, Wall Street isn’t so sure the carmaker can avoid its first annual sales decline in over a decade.</p><p>Analysts surveyed by Bloomberg are estimating the company may deliver around 510,400 vehicles in the final three months of the year. That would set a new quarterly record for Tesla, but the company would need to sell about 4,600 more cars to make good on its forecast for slight growth in 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/276a2e1633dadfa4ea8555a989b558a7\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"641\" tg-height=\"378\"/></p><p>Tesla has a lot riding on the production and delivery figures it’s expected to report on Jan. 2.</p><p>The carmaker added more than $733 billion in market capitalization from Election Day through mid-December, when its valuation peaked at $1.54 trillion. While investors have been betting Musk’s emergence as the marquee donor to President-elect Trump will pay dividends for his companies, an annual sales dip could lead to some second-guessing.</p><p>Trump’s policy prescriptions are, after all, far from a slam dunk for Tesla. While a federal framework for autonomous vehicle deployment is cause for optimism, it’s not clear the company’s technology is ready. Trump’s advisers also are recommending that he repeal electric-vehicle subsidies and roll back fuel-economy and tailpipe-pollution regulations that generate significant revenue for Tesla.</p><p>“This number is a total wild card,” Gene Munster, managing partner of growth-investment firm Deepwater Asset Management, said of Tesla’s fourth-quarter deliveries. Munster is wary about Musk distancing himself from politically left-leaning consumers and embracing fans of Trump, who haven’t been buying EVs. That said, the prospect of tax credits going away soon could “really juice” Tesla’s sales, he said.</p><h3 id=\"id_3450343167\">EV Slowdown</h3><p>Musk has maintained throughout the year that Tesla is between two “growth waves” and repeatedly predicted that autonomy will lead to a next leg of expansion. The first touched off when the company began rolling out its most affordable EV, the Model 3 sedan, and followed that up with the smash-hit Model Y sport utility vehicle.</p><p>Whether Tesla manages to eke out any growth or not in 2024, the company lost significant momentum in the midst of a broader slowdown in the global EV market.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dbf477aaae860c8b90ff8876756866ba\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"636\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>Even as China’s BYD Co. continued its ascent up the sales charts, the company increasingly relied on the strength of its plug-in hybrid lineup. Volkswagen AG, Mercedes-Benz Group AG and Volvo Car AB, meanwhile, were among the automakers to scale back their EV objectives for the coming years at some point in 2024.</p><p>In the US, Ford Motor Co.’s plug-in vehicle business is bracing for a $5 billion annual loss. And in Japan, a potential partnership between Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. to jointly work on software development, batteries and other EV components has given way to considerations of a full-blown combination under a joint holding company.</p><h3 id=\"id_96487527\">Musk’s Outlook</h3><p>Even against this backdrop, Musk has offered an upbeat view on 2025. When Tesla last reported quarterly earnings in October, the CEO said his best guess was that the company could increase sales by 20% to 30% next year.</p><p>That outlook rests, in part, on Tesla launching more affordable models in the first half of next year that the company has yet to identify.</p><p>Chris McNally, an analyst at Evercore ISI, wrote in a report to clients Monday that his best guess is Tesla will offer new variants of the Model 3 and Y that are $4,000 to $5,000 cheaper through an improved electrical architecture and “de-contenting,” a reference to using lower-cost parts or removing certain components or features.</p><p>Tesla has already gotten a jump on its affordability drive by closing the year with a flood of deals, ranging from cut-rate financing to years of free charging and cheaper leases.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/36b22fd0b2907d8534fb9c64ed689d78\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"652\" tg-height=\"365\"/></p><p>Musk’s 2025 sales growth forecast “is likely to prove aggressive,” according to Garrett Nelson, an analyst at CFRA Research.</p><p>“We see headwinds facing EV sales from the possible combination of a stronger dollar, higher domestic oil production from easing regulations, and lower oil prices,” Nelson wrote in a Dec. 2 report. “After a year in which Tesla’s vehicle sales growth will likely be flattish, we see its volumes growing only 10%-15% in 2025, or only half as strong as its guidance.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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That would set a new quarterly record for Tesla, but the company would need to sell about 4,600 more cars to make good on its forecast for slight growth in 2024.Tesla has a lot riding on the production and delivery figures it’s expected to report on Jan. 2.The carmaker added more than $733 billion in market capitalization from Election Day through mid-December, when its valuation peaked at $1.54 trillion. While investors have been betting Musk’s emergence as the marquee donor to President-elect Trump will pay dividends for his companies, an annual sales dip could lead to some second-guessing.Trump’s policy prescriptions are, after all, far from a slam dunk for Tesla. While a federal framework for autonomous vehicle deployment is cause for optimism, it’s not clear the company’s technology is ready. Trump’s advisers also are recommending that he repeal electric-vehicle subsidies and roll back fuel-economy and tailpipe-pollution regulations that generate significant revenue for Tesla.“This number is a total wild card,” Gene Munster, managing partner of growth-investment firm Deepwater Asset Management, said of Tesla’s fourth-quarter deliveries. Munster is wary about Musk distancing himself from politically left-leaning consumers and embracing fans of Trump, who haven’t been buying EVs. That said, the prospect of tax credits going away soon could “really juice” Tesla’s sales, he said.EV SlowdownMusk has maintained throughout the year that Tesla is between two “growth waves” and repeatedly predicted that autonomy will lead to a next leg of expansion. The first touched off when the company began rolling out its most affordable EV, the Model 3 sedan, and followed that up with the smash-hit Model Y sport utility vehicle.Whether Tesla manages to eke out any growth or not in 2024, the company lost significant momentum in the midst of a broader slowdown in the global EV market.Even as China’s BYD Co. continued its ascent up the sales charts, the company increasingly relied on the strength of its plug-in hybrid lineup. Volkswagen AG, Mercedes-Benz Group AG and Volvo Car AB, meanwhile, were among the automakers to scale back their EV objectives for the coming years at some point in 2024.In the US, Ford Motor Co.’s plug-in vehicle business is bracing for a $5 billion annual loss. And in Japan, a potential partnership between Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. to jointly work on software development, batteries and other EV components has given way to considerations of a full-blown combination under a joint holding company.Musk’s OutlookEven against this backdrop, Musk has offered an upbeat view on 2025. When Tesla last reported quarterly earnings in October, the CEO said his best guess was that the company could increase sales by 20% to 30% next year.That outlook rests, in part, on Tesla launching more affordable models in the first half of next year that the company has yet to identify.Chris McNally, an analyst at Evercore ISI, wrote in a report to clients Monday that his best guess is Tesla will offer new variants of the Model 3 and Y that are $4,000 to $5,000 cheaper through an improved electrical architecture and “de-contenting,” a reference to using lower-cost parts or removing certain components or features.Tesla has already gotten a jump on its affordability drive by closing the year with a flood of deals, ranging from cut-rate financing to years of free charging and cheaper leases.Musk’s 2025 sales growth forecast “is likely to prove aggressive,” according to Garrett Nelson, an analyst at CFRA Research.“We see headwinds facing EV sales from the possible combination of a stronger dollar, higher domestic oil production from easing regulations, and lower oil prices,” Nelson wrote in a Dec. 2 report. “After a year in which Tesla’s vehicle sales growth will likely be flattish, we see its volumes growing only 10%-15% in 2025, or only half as strong as its guidance.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":515,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":380828532007136,"gmtCreate":1733986476013,"gmtModify":1733986479734,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape","listText":"Another sour grape","text":"Another sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/380828532007136","repostId":"2490824782","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":150,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":370954734887280,"gmtCreate":1731604278306,"gmtModify":1731604282180,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Must feel very upset cos u missed the big boat which already left the port.","listText":"Must feel very upset cos u missed the big boat which already left the port.","text":"Must feel very upset cos u missed the big boat which already left the port.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/370954734887280","repostId":"1124787577","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":171,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":370954436583912,"gmtCreate":1731604209574,"gmtModify":1731604213429,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Try harder, please.","listText":"Try harder, please.","text":"Try harder, please.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/370954436583912","repostId":"1124787577","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1124787577","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1731600007,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1124787577?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-15 00:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1124787577","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"First off, let's address what's driving the TSLA stock's expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from enterin","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_1666794739\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Despite Tesla&#39;s strong financials and growth, I maintain a &#34;Sell&#34; rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump&#39;s presidency and market FOMO.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s recent stock surge is attributed to potential benefits from Trump&#39;s policies, but these are uncertain and long term, not justifying the current price.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s financial health is solid, with increased revenues and cash flow, but decreasing average selling prices and high capital expenditures pose risks.</p></li><li><p>TSLA stock&#39;s current valuation exceeds even the most optimistic forecasts, making it an unattractive investment compared to other fast-growing companies.</p></li><li><p>I am Danil Sereda, chief investment officer at a family office. I analyze information that ordinary retail investors do not have access to, and lead the investing group Beyond the Wall Investing.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/97332ec96f4587d760e03c7466405358\" alt=\"Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023\" title=\"Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023</span></p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_3829677698\">Intro &amp; Thesis</h2><p>My first article about <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) was published in October 2021 with a &#34;Buy&#34; rating, which I changed to &#34;Hold&#34; in October 2022 and eventually to &#34;Sell&#34; in April 2023. Since then, I have maintained my bearish rating on TSLA, which was aging well until recently - Trump&#39;s win led to a massive expansion in TSLA stock, which has been up over 60% over the past few years, according to Seeking Alpha&#39;s momentum data.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/22644e34544e69645941a208a4dc6f41\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"458\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>While my bearish stance turned out to be wrong, I think the rally in Tesla stock itself is hard to explain fundamentally - it simply seems to be a reaction to a Trump-related catalyst that is unlikely to dramatically improve Tesla&#39;s business going forward. Given the valuation premium expansion and widespread FOMO I see on the market right now, I&#39;m reiterating my previous &#34;Sell&#34; rating, being a contrarian to what&#39;s going on around.</p><h2 id=\"id_1735159744\">Why Do I Think So?</h2><p>First off, let&#39;s address what&#39;s driving the TSLA stock&#39;s expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from entering the US market, which will allow Tesla to maintain market dominance. Further, Elon Musk&#39;s potential advisory role to Trump may impact federal autonomous driving laws in the United States and speed up the regulatory approval process for Tesla&#39;s self-driving technologies.</p><p>While these are all important developments for Tesla shareholders, I think the overall impact is too uncertain and too long-term to drive the stock&#39;s price up that much. I think we should look at Tesla&#39;s recent financials firsthand to really see and assess the company&#39;s medium-term prospects.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s Q3 2024 report (published in late October 2024) showed an adjusted net profit of $2.505 billion, or $0.72 per diluted share (+9% YoY), beating analyst and management expectations. The earnings beat was driven by &#34;improved vehicle deliveries, better gross margins, and efficient cost-reduction efforts&#34;, according to the management&#39;s commentary. Tesla&#39;s auto revenue grew by 2% to $20.016 billion and its Energy Generation and Storage revenue increased by 52% YoY to $2.379 billion, driven by &#34;high-demand Powerwall and Megapack products&#34;, which achieved the highest deployments and a gross margin of 30.5%.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s balance sheet remained healthy in general, as cash and cash equivalents were $33.65 billion at the close of Q3 2024. The firm&#39;s financial strength stems from its strong operating cash flows which reached $6.255 billion in Q3 - that&#39;s 89% more than last year. As a result, the FCF has gone up by about 3.2 times YoY. Though Tesla may consider share buybacks in the future, the current business environment doesn&#39;t support any buybacks until 2025-2026, I suppose.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4696477d34648230d1e22e2c8554b314\" alt=\"TSLA&#39;s IR materials\" title=\"TSLA&#39;s IR materials\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"321\"/><span>TSLA&#39;s IR materials</span></p><p></p><p>On the liability side, Tesla&#39;s debt rose due to R&amp;D, AI training, and production capacity investment. However, Tesla&#39;s debt/cap ratio is still lower than the industry norm, according to Argus Research data (proprietary source, November 2024), which is a testament to its sound financial control.</p><p>Tesla delivered 462,890 vehicles during Q3, which was up 6% from the previous year driven primarily by the Model 3 and Model Y. The Shanghai facility, an integral part of Tesla&#39;s global production plans, ran at full capacity and provided substantial volumes to the firm. The plant’s bounce back from scheduled downtime in Q3 2023 speaks volumes about Tesla&#39;s reliability and performance, bullish-minded analysts at Argus Research noted.</p><p>In spite of these seemingly solid results, Tesla is plagued by issues that have hurt its financial metrics. Their average selling prices (ASP) keep decreasing due to product mix changes and increased competition within the EV space. As of note, Tesla Y is &#34;one of the quickest-depreciating cars over the past year or so: the average price of a Tesla Model 3 is now about $26,000, $8,500 less than it was a year before&#34;, according to Patrick George from Inside EVs.</p><p>This kind of ASP dynamics has challenged Tesla&#39;s automotive gross margins which, while improving over last year, remain a topic of attention for investors. Additionally, Tesla&#39;s expansion into new markets and lines of business (including Cybertruck and its upcoming low-priced EV) takes significant capital outlay, increasing the company&#39;s debt position (although it&#39;s not that scary amid Tesla&#39;s debt-to-equity of just 0.18, according to Seeking Alpha data).</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/83e76d2c00b38b9a3998a7ef51499b80\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p></p><p>Tesla&#39;s market leadership in the EV market (51% market share of the US EV market, according to Argus) is a &#34;testament to their brand and technological strength&#34;. Also, Tesla&#39;s energy businesses - Powerwall and Megapack - are expanding quickly and seem to have great long-term growth prospects. According to InsightAce Analytic, the global stationary energy storage market is estimated to reach $215.10 billion by 2031, growing at a CAGR of 22.25% during the forecast period of 2024-2031 with Tesla being one of the key market players there:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e3f26a1721a19ba614598e26e409f2f2\" alt=\"InsightAce Analytic\" title=\"InsightAce Analytic\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"376\"/><span>InsightAce Analytic</span></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, Tesla is not immune to flaws and threats: This company&#39;s dependency on a handful of major markets, including the United States and China, places it at geopolitical and regulatory risk. Tesla is under strong pressure from domestic EV makers and could encounter regulatory obstacles in China, as it generates roughly a third of its consolidated sales there. In addition, Tesla’s high growth goals, including 20-30% growth in vehicle deliveries by 2025, are contingent on successful new product introductions and production capacity expansion. I think these projections are too optimistic when you see the market the company has to compete in today.</p><p>From Q4 2024 through FY2025, Tesla management set lofty expectations for both its EVs to be more accessible and its business to be autonomous. As new models roll out and production ramps up, Elon Musk expects Tesla’s vehicle deliveries to jump 20-30% by 2025. He also believes that the energy industry is likely to stay afloat with the Megapack and Powerwall markets continuing to grow.</p><p>Looking at the dynamics of analysts&#39; forecasts over the past month, we can see that the forecast EPS figures are gradually recovering from the sharp decline that has persisted since 2021. However, <em>the extent of the recovery in EPS forecasts seems too weak to me to justify the stock reaction we have seen in recent days.</em></p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e6bdbd4bdc93e3dbc34abf3834138fd3\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>That is to say, sure, the recent stock rise is likely to have been warranted, but not in the way it has been. My perception is that the stock has become too distant from the present.</p><p>Despite some obvious bullish hints, Tesla&#39;s aggressive pricing - to retain market share - may continue to stress margins. Add Tesla’s heavy capital spending agenda – necessary for the company’s ambitious growth strategy - and you have a nightmare scenario that threatens even current broadly positive consensus estimates of earnings.</p><p>The presence of Tesla in China is a blessing and a curse: It&#39;s one of Tesla&#39;s key markets, but the company is now also up against regional EV makers, who are quickly taking over the market. Since Trump is now president, regulatory and geopolitical concerns also threaten Tesla’s presence in China. Whether the firm will continue to succeed in the market depends on how it is able to get past these obstacles and maintain an edge over the others. For the most part, I don’t see this risk represented clearly by market expectations today.</p><p>Additionally, as any skeptic, I&#39;m baffled as to how the company is being valued today. Not only does the stock look overbought on traditional technical measures such as the Relative Strength Index, but it&#39;s also now trading far beyond the expectations of even the most loyal bulls. Look at the Morgan Stanley CFA Adam Jonas&#39; report (proprietary source, October 2024) – he expected Tesla to be $310/share in a year. But the stock is already trading above $340, 10% higher than what one of the most bullish analysts on the market was predicting.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da566d70b68ee0bc287c9b97ef3d10d0\" alt=\"Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added\" title=\"Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"328\"/><span>Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added</span></p><p></p><p>A lot of people would argue that EPS growth is the reason for the company’s valuation to be as strong as it is right now. But let’s face it, if you’re looking at a rapidly growing business, your best bet would be the PEG ratio, which calculates the combination of the price-to-earnings multiple and the rate of earnings growth. For Tesla in particular, this ratio doesn&#39;t even approach 1x, which is typically the benchmark for fast-growing companies. This seems to be the case at least until the end of 2027, and I suspect it may continue to be so for some time.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a47258e2c54c301478e5dec891a0ef52\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"346\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added</span></p><p>In other words, recent events have led to what, I believe, is an unreasonably high premium in Tesla&#39;s stock price. This premium is so significant that it seems unlikely that prudent long-term investors, following the principles of Peter Lynch or any other renowned investor in fast-growing companies, can justify holding TSLA at these levels.</p><h2 id=\"id_2580866101\">Where Can I Be Wrong?</h2><p>I might be off base in the analysis of what the market believes is an acceleration for Tesla&#39;s stock price: Perhaps I am overlooking something or an impact on Tesla&#39;s stock price that isn&#39;t yet reflected in its price, which could mean Tesla stock would swell dramatically.</p><p>Additionally, the high demand in current energy markets, which is driving multiples higher with Tesla dominating the market with its Powerwall and Megapack solutions, could drive higher multiples as the market looks forward to a higher growth rate.</p><p>When or if the Tesla stock premium eventually will drop back down to more manageable levels, I don&#39;t know for sure, I can only guess that it will at some point. If it does, it could be devastating for existing shareholders, but then again, the company may simply outgrow its current large multiples, eliminating such threats.</p><h2 id=\"id_1695721782\">The Bottom Line</h2><p>I generally agree with the bulls that Tesla&#39;s high-growth plans for Q4 2024 and FY2025, resulting from new models and growth in the energy segment, present significant opportunities for value creation. However, the business will have to judiciously control risks related to the market environment, regulatory developments, and geopolitical uncertainty to meet its long-term targets. In addition, while Trump&#39;s presidency might offer some advantages to Elon Musk&#39;s business ecosystem, it also introduces risks for Tesla in particular. Increased U.S. pressure on Chinese manufacturers could provoke retaliatory actions, and Tesla, given the critical importance of the Chinese market to its operations, could be one of the first to feel the impact. I believe these risks are being overlooked by today&#39;s Tesla buyers, who have driven the company&#39;s market cap to unprecedented heights given the fundamental setup we&#39;re looking at. Currently, Tesla is trading even higher than the most optimistic bulls predicted at the end of last month; the growth potential that very optimistic market players anticipated for the next 12 months has already been realized and even exceeded - in just a couple of weeks.</p><p>If we assess the situation without excessive optimism and try to be as objective as possible, it becomes clear that the company is overvalued, with a premium that defies reasonable logic, in my opinion. This is why I have decided to maintain my &#34;Sell&#34; rating, despite its lack of success in the recent past (as it remained relevant for many months). I believe there are many other fast-growing companies in the market that deserve investors&#39; attention, and unfortunately, Tesla isn&#39;t one of them today.</p><p><em>Thank you for reading!</em></p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha_fund","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-15 00:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryDespite Tesla's strong financials and growth, I maintain a \"Sell\" rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump's presidency and market FOMO.Tesla's recent stock surge is...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1124787577","content_text":"SummaryDespite Tesla's strong financials and growth, I maintain a \"Sell\" rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump's presidency and market FOMO.Tesla's recent stock surge is attributed to potential benefits from Trump's policies, but these are uncertain and long term, not justifying the current price.Tesla's financial health is solid, with increased revenues and cash flow, but decreasing average selling prices and high capital expenditures pose risks.TSLA stock's current valuation exceeds even the most optimistic forecasts, making it an unattractive investment compared to other fast-growing companies.I am Danil Sereda, chief investment officer at a family office. I analyze information that ordinary retail investors do not have access to, and lead the investing group Beyond the Wall Investing.Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023Intro & ThesisMy first article about Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) was published in October 2021 with a \"Buy\" rating, which I changed to \"Hold\" in October 2022 and eventually to \"Sell\" in April 2023. Since then, I have maintained my bearish rating on TSLA, which was aging well until recently - Trump's win led to a massive expansion in TSLA stock, which has been up over 60% over the past few years, according to Seeking Alpha's momentum data.Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLAWhile my bearish stance turned out to be wrong, I think the rally in Tesla stock itself is hard to explain fundamentally - it simply seems to be a reaction to a Trump-related catalyst that is unlikely to dramatically improve Tesla's business going forward. Given the valuation premium expansion and widespread FOMO I see on the market right now, I'm reiterating my previous \"Sell\" rating, being a contrarian to what's going on around.Why Do I Think So?First off, let's address what's driving the TSLA stock's expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from entering the US market, which will allow Tesla to maintain market dominance. Further, Elon Musk's potential advisory role to Trump may impact federal autonomous driving laws in the United States and speed up the regulatory approval process for Tesla's self-driving technologies.While these are all important developments for Tesla shareholders, I think the overall impact is too uncertain and too long-term to drive the stock's price up that much. I think we should look at Tesla's recent financials firsthand to really see and assess the company's medium-term prospects.Tesla's Q3 2024 report (published in late October 2024) showed an adjusted net profit of $2.505 billion, or $0.72 per diluted share (+9% YoY), beating analyst and management expectations. The earnings beat was driven by \"improved vehicle deliveries, better gross margins, and efficient cost-reduction efforts\", according to the management's commentary. Tesla's auto revenue grew by 2% to $20.016 billion and its Energy Generation and Storage revenue increased by 52% YoY to $2.379 billion, driven by \"high-demand Powerwall and Megapack products\", which achieved the highest deployments and a gross margin of 30.5%.Tesla's balance sheet remained healthy in general, as cash and cash equivalents were $33.65 billion at the close of Q3 2024. The firm's financial strength stems from its strong operating cash flows which reached $6.255 billion in Q3 - that's 89% more than last year. As a result, the FCF has gone up by about 3.2 times YoY. Though Tesla may consider share buybacks in the future, the current business environment doesn't support any buybacks until 2025-2026, I suppose.TSLA's IR materialsOn the liability side, Tesla's debt rose due to R&D, AI training, and production capacity investment. However, Tesla's debt/cap ratio is still lower than the industry norm, according to Argus Research data (proprietary source, November 2024), which is a testament to its sound financial control.Tesla delivered 462,890 vehicles during Q3, which was up 6% from the previous year driven primarily by the Model 3 and Model Y. The Shanghai facility, an integral part of Tesla's global production plans, ran at full capacity and provided substantial volumes to the firm. The plant’s bounce back from scheduled downtime in Q3 2023 speaks volumes about Tesla's reliability and performance, bullish-minded analysts at Argus Research noted.In spite of these seemingly solid results, Tesla is plagued by issues that have hurt its financial metrics. Their average selling prices (ASP) keep decreasing due to product mix changes and increased competition within the EV space. As of note, Tesla Y is \"one of the quickest-depreciating cars over the past year or so: the average price of a Tesla Model 3 is now about $26,000, $8,500 less than it was a year before\", according to Patrick George from Inside EVs.This kind of ASP dynamics has challenged Tesla's automotive gross margins which, while improving over last year, remain a topic of attention for investors. Additionally, Tesla's expansion into new markets and lines of business (including Cybertruck and its upcoming low-priced EV) takes significant capital outlay, increasing the company's debt position (although it's not that scary amid Tesla's debt-to-equity of just 0.18, according to Seeking Alpha data).ChartTesla's market leadership in the EV market (51% market share of the US EV market, according to Argus) is a \"testament to their brand and technological strength\". Also, Tesla's energy businesses - Powerwall and Megapack - are expanding quickly and seem to have great long-term growth prospects. According to InsightAce Analytic, the global stationary energy storage market is estimated to reach $215.10 billion by 2031, growing at a CAGR of 22.25% during the forecast period of 2024-2031 with Tesla being one of the key market players there:InsightAce AnalyticOn the other hand, Tesla is not immune to flaws and threats: This company's dependency on a handful of major markets, including the United States and China, places it at geopolitical and regulatory risk. Tesla is under strong pressure from domestic EV makers and could encounter regulatory obstacles in China, as it generates roughly a third of its consolidated sales there. In addition, Tesla’s high growth goals, including 20-30% growth in vehicle deliveries by 2025, are contingent on successful new product introductions and production capacity expansion. I think these projections are too optimistic when you see the market the company has to compete in today.From Q4 2024 through FY2025, Tesla management set lofty expectations for both its EVs to be more accessible and its business to be autonomous. As new models roll out and production ramps up, Elon Musk expects Tesla’s vehicle deliveries to jump 20-30% by 2025. He also believes that the energy industry is likely to stay afloat with the Megapack and Powerwall markets continuing to grow.Looking at the dynamics of analysts' forecasts over the past month, we can see that the forecast EPS figures are gradually recovering from the sharp decline that has persisted since 2021. However, the extent of the recovery in EPS forecasts seems too weak to me to justify the stock reaction we have seen in recent days.Seeking Alpha, TSLAThat is to say, sure, the recent stock rise is likely to have been warranted, but not in the way it has been. My perception is that the stock has become too distant from the present.Despite some obvious bullish hints, Tesla's aggressive pricing - to retain market share - may continue to stress margins. Add Tesla’s heavy capital spending agenda – necessary for the company’s ambitious growth strategy - and you have a nightmare scenario that threatens even current broadly positive consensus estimates of earnings.The presence of Tesla in China is a blessing and a curse: It's one of Tesla's key markets, but the company is now also up against regional EV makers, who are quickly taking over the market. Since Trump is now president, regulatory and geopolitical concerns also threaten Tesla’s presence in China. Whether the firm will continue to succeed in the market depends on how it is able to get past these obstacles and maintain an edge over the others. For the most part, I don’t see this risk represented clearly by market expectations today.Additionally, as any skeptic, I'm baffled as to how the company is being valued today. Not only does the stock look overbought on traditional technical measures such as the Relative Strength Index, but it's also now trading far beyond the expectations of even the most loyal bulls. Look at the Morgan Stanley CFA Adam Jonas' report (proprietary source, October 2024) – he expected Tesla to be $310/share in a year. But the stock is already trading above $340, 10% higher than what one of the most bullish analysts on the market was predicting.Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes addedA lot of people would argue that EPS growth is the reason for the company’s valuation to be as strong as it is right now. But let’s face it, if you’re looking at a rapidly growing business, your best bet would be the PEG ratio, which calculates the combination of the price-to-earnings multiple and the rate of earnings growth. For Tesla in particular, this ratio doesn't even approach 1x, which is typically the benchmark for fast-growing companies. This seems to be the case at least until the end of 2027, and I suspect it may continue to be so for some time.Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes addedIn other words, recent events have led to what, I believe, is an unreasonably high premium in Tesla's stock price. This premium is so significant that it seems unlikely that prudent long-term investors, following the principles of Peter Lynch or any other renowned investor in fast-growing companies, can justify holding TSLA at these levels.Where Can I Be Wrong?I might be off base in the analysis of what the market believes is an acceleration for Tesla's stock price: Perhaps I am overlooking something or an impact on Tesla's stock price that isn't yet reflected in its price, which could mean Tesla stock would swell dramatically.Additionally, the high demand in current energy markets, which is driving multiples higher with Tesla dominating the market with its Powerwall and Megapack solutions, could drive higher multiples as the market looks forward to a higher growth rate.When or if the Tesla stock premium eventually will drop back down to more manageable levels, I don't know for sure, I can only guess that it will at some point. If it does, it could be devastating for existing shareholders, but then again, the company may simply outgrow its current large multiples, eliminating such threats.The Bottom LineI generally agree with the bulls that Tesla's high-growth plans for Q4 2024 and FY2025, resulting from new models and growth in the energy segment, present significant opportunities for value creation. However, the business will have to judiciously control risks related to the market environment, regulatory developments, and geopolitical uncertainty to meet its long-term targets. In addition, while Trump's presidency might offer some advantages to Elon Musk's business ecosystem, it also introduces risks for Tesla in particular. Increased U.S. pressure on Chinese manufacturers could provoke retaliatory actions, and Tesla, given the critical importance of the Chinese market to its operations, could be one of the first to feel the impact. I believe these risks are being overlooked by today's Tesla buyers, who have driven the company's market cap to unprecedented heights given the fundamental setup we're looking at. Currently, Tesla is trading even higher than the most optimistic bulls predicted at the end of last month; the growth potential that very optimistic market players anticipated for the next 12 months has already been realized and even exceeded - in just a couple of weeks.If we assess the situation without excessive optimism and try to be as objective as possible, it becomes clear that the company is overvalued, with a premium that defies reasonable logic, in my opinion. This is why I have decided to maintain my \"Sell\" rating, despite its lack of success in the recent past (as it remained relevant for many months). I believe there are many other fast-growing companies in the market that deserve investors' attention, and unfortunately, Tesla isn't one of them today.Thank you for reading!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":127,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":363860814844144,"gmtCreate":1729843533356,"gmtModify":1729843537160,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another F saying negative things abt tesla","listText":"Another F saying negative things abt tesla","text":"Another F saying negative things abt tesla","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/363860814844144","repostId":"1144739433","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":317,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":387129327841408,"gmtCreate":1735525057893,"gmtModify":1735525061571,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","listText":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","text":"Why keep repeating the same article???? Nothing else better to do than to be a sour grape?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/387129327841408","repostId":"2494483318","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494483318","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735524000,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494483318?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-30 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494483318","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.Investors are excited about the company's future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.Shares of Tesla declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed i","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.</p></li><li><p>Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.</p></li><li><p>Investors are excited about the company&#39;s future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.</p></li></ul><p>Shares of <strong>Tesla</strong> declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it&#39;s now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.</p><p>Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump&#39;s election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration&#39;s policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.</p><p>With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla&#39;s stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?</p><h2 id=\"id_2721806520\">Tesla&#39;s EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024</h2><p>The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn&#39;t. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% <em>drop</em> from the same period last year. That puts Tesla&#39;s deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.</p><p>That&#39;s a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company&#39;s total revenue. If this part of its business isn&#39;t performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).</p><p>As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can&#39;t happen if sales aren&#39;t keeping up.</p><p>The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like <strong>Ford </strong>and <strong>General Motors </strong>slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.</p><p>Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. <strong>BYD</strong>, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can&#39;t compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a3e1eccd0d9264e1c4caf8f2deb2b939\" alt=\"Image source: Tesla.\" title=\"Image source: Tesla.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Image source: Tesla.</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3123686335\">Deliveries aren&#39;t the main thing driving Tesla stock</h2><p>You might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company&#39;s full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla&#39;s new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.</p><p>It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won&#39;t come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla&#39;s FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.</p><p>Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.</p><p>FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla&#39;s passenger EVs, but it isn&#39;t actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.</p><p>Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood&#39;s Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That&#39;s why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.</p><h2 id=\"id_3272353205\">Tesla stock is extremely expensive right now</h2><p>Before investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company&#39;s trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it&#39;s more than twice as expensive as <strong>Nvidia</strong>!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2599b164d8622f793c8d0e6ec76774f4\" alt=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" title=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.</span></p><p>The <strong>Nasdaq-100</strong> technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it&#39;s home to most of Tesla&#39;s big-tech peers, it really puts the company&#39;s sky-high valuation into perspective.</p><p>As I highlighted earlier, Tesla&#39;s deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.</p><p>Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it&#39;s unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won&#39;t enter mass production until 2026.</p><p>As a result, it&#39;s extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don&#39;t own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump's election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration's policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla's stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?Tesla's EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn't. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% drop from the same period last year. That puts Tesla's deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.That's a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company's total revenue. If this part of its business isn't performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can't happen if sales aren't keeping up.The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like Ford and General Motors slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. BYD, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can't compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.Image source: Tesla.Deliveries aren't the main thing driving Tesla stockYou might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company's full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla's new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won't come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla's FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla's passenger EVs, but it isn't actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood's Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That's why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.Tesla stock is extremely expensive right nowBefore investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company's trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it's more than twice as expensive as Nvidia!TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.The Nasdaq-100 technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it's home to most of Tesla's big-tech peers, it really puts the company's sky-high valuation into perspective.As I highlighted earlier, Tesla's deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it's unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won't enter mass production until 2026.As a result, it's extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don't own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":698,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":371879335067960,"gmtCreate":1731830572819,"gmtModify":1731830577025,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many sour grapes here who missed the rally. Sour grapes&nbsp;","listText":"So many sour grapes here who missed the rally. Sour grapes&nbsp;","text":"So many sour grapes here who missed the rally. Sour grapes","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/371879335067960","repostId":"2483945685","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2483945685","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1731804456,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2483945685?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-17 08:47","market":"other","language":"en","title":"The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2483945685","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-17 08:47</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","BK4099":"汽车制造商","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4107":"财产与意外伤害保险","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4117":"多元化保险"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2483945685","content_text":"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?\"I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,\" Musk said a few weeks ago. \"It would be silly.\"Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don't think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn't alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\"That market sucks,\" Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called \"Bold Names.\"Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.\"That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,\" he said of the low-price EVs. \"To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.\"Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we've swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla's ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that's before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.\"As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,\" Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. \"Now we just don't have\" these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota's Corolla, Kia's Forte, Nissan's Sentra and Chevrolet's Trax.It isn't as though people don't want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives' stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers' setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they're accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.\"The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,\" Musk told analysts in October. \"It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it's like excruciating.\"He added: \"There's not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":284,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":371566767894896,"gmtCreate":1731754265069,"gmtModify":1731754269064,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Trying hard to talk down the stock.","listText":"Trying hard to talk down the stock.","text":"Trying hard to talk down the stock.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/371566767894896","repostId":"2483945685","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2483945685","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1731804456,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2483945685?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-17 08:47","market":"other","language":"en","title":"The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2483945685","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-17 08:47</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/><span>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>By Tim Higgins</p><p>The dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.</p><p>Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.</p><p>The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.</p><p>Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?</p><p>&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;</p><p>Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.</p><p>Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg</span></p><p>&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;</p><p>Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.</p><p>&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;</p><p>Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.</p><p>Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.</p><p>Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images</span></p><p>Rivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.</p><p>A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.</p><p>Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.</p><p>To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.</p><p>A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.</p><p>The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.</p><p>A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.</p><p>In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ</span></p><p>A year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.</p><p>What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.</p><p>&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.</p><p>Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.</p><p>It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.</p><p>What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.</p><p>While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.</p><p>Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.</p><p>&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;</p><p>He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","BK4099":"汽车制造商","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4107":"财产与意外伤害保险","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4117":"多元化保险"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2483945685","content_text":"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?\"I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,\" Musk said a few weeks ago. \"It would be silly.\"Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don't think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn't alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\"That market sucks,\" Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called \"Bold Names.\"Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.\"That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,\" he said of the low-price EVs. \"To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.\"Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we've swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla's ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that's before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.\"As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,\" Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. \"Now we just don't have\" these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota's Corolla, Kia's Forte, Nissan's Sentra and Chevrolet's Trax.It isn't as though people don't want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives' stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers' setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they're accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.\"The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,\" Musk told analysts in October. \"It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it's like excruciating.\"He added: \"There's not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":113,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":371032357318792,"gmtCreate":1731602229239,"gmtModify":1731603301978,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Don't worry. We know the grapes are very sour.....u are such a sour grape","listText":"Don't worry. We know the grapes are very sour.....u are such a sour grape","text":"Don't worry. We know the grapes are very sour.....u are such a sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/371032357318792","repostId":"1124787577","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1124787577","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1731600007,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1124787577?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-15 00:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1124787577","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"First off, let's address what's driving the TSLA stock's expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from enterin","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_1666794739\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Despite Tesla&#39;s strong financials and growth, I maintain a &#34;Sell&#34; rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump&#39;s presidency and market FOMO.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s recent stock surge is attributed to potential benefits from Trump&#39;s policies, but these are uncertain and long term, not justifying the current price.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s financial health is solid, with increased revenues and cash flow, but decreasing average selling prices and high capital expenditures pose risks.</p></li><li><p>TSLA stock&#39;s current valuation exceeds even the most optimistic forecasts, making it an unattractive investment compared to other fast-growing companies.</p></li><li><p>I am Danil Sereda, chief investment officer at a family office. I analyze information that ordinary retail investors do not have access to, and lead the investing group Beyond the Wall Investing.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/97332ec96f4587d760e03c7466405358\" alt=\"Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023\" title=\"Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023</span></p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_3829677698\">Intro &amp; Thesis</h2><p>My first article about <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) was published in October 2021 with a &#34;Buy&#34; rating, which I changed to &#34;Hold&#34; in October 2022 and eventually to &#34;Sell&#34; in April 2023. Since then, I have maintained my bearish rating on TSLA, which was aging well until recently - Trump&#39;s win led to a massive expansion in TSLA stock, which has been up over 60% over the past few years, according to Seeking Alpha&#39;s momentum data.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/22644e34544e69645941a208a4dc6f41\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"458\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>While my bearish stance turned out to be wrong, I think the rally in Tesla stock itself is hard to explain fundamentally - it simply seems to be a reaction to a Trump-related catalyst that is unlikely to dramatically improve Tesla&#39;s business going forward. Given the valuation premium expansion and widespread FOMO I see on the market right now, I&#39;m reiterating my previous &#34;Sell&#34; rating, being a contrarian to what&#39;s going on around.</p><h2 id=\"id_1735159744\">Why Do I Think So?</h2><p>First off, let&#39;s address what&#39;s driving the TSLA stock&#39;s expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from entering the US market, which will allow Tesla to maintain market dominance. Further, Elon Musk&#39;s potential advisory role to Trump may impact federal autonomous driving laws in the United States and speed up the regulatory approval process for Tesla&#39;s self-driving technologies.</p><p>While these are all important developments for Tesla shareholders, I think the overall impact is too uncertain and too long-term to drive the stock&#39;s price up that much. I think we should look at Tesla&#39;s recent financials firsthand to really see and assess the company&#39;s medium-term prospects.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s Q3 2024 report (published in late October 2024) showed an adjusted net profit of $2.505 billion, or $0.72 per diluted share (+9% YoY), beating analyst and management expectations. The earnings beat was driven by &#34;improved vehicle deliveries, better gross margins, and efficient cost-reduction efforts&#34;, according to the management&#39;s commentary. Tesla&#39;s auto revenue grew by 2% to $20.016 billion and its Energy Generation and Storage revenue increased by 52% YoY to $2.379 billion, driven by &#34;high-demand Powerwall and Megapack products&#34;, which achieved the highest deployments and a gross margin of 30.5%.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s balance sheet remained healthy in general, as cash and cash equivalents were $33.65 billion at the close of Q3 2024. The firm&#39;s financial strength stems from its strong operating cash flows which reached $6.255 billion in Q3 - that&#39;s 89% more than last year. As a result, the FCF has gone up by about 3.2 times YoY. Though Tesla may consider share buybacks in the future, the current business environment doesn&#39;t support any buybacks until 2025-2026, I suppose.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4696477d34648230d1e22e2c8554b314\" alt=\"TSLA&#39;s IR materials\" title=\"TSLA&#39;s IR materials\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"321\"/><span>TSLA&#39;s IR materials</span></p><p></p><p>On the liability side, Tesla&#39;s debt rose due to R&amp;D, AI training, and production capacity investment. However, Tesla&#39;s debt/cap ratio is still lower than the industry norm, according to Argus Research data (proprietary source, November 2024), which is a testament to its sound financial control.</p><p>Tesla delivered 462,890 vehicles during Q3, which was up 6% from the previous year driven primarily by the Model 3 and Model Y. The Shanghai facility, an integral part of Tesla&#39;s global production plans, ran at full capacity and provided substantial volumes to the firm. The plant’s bounce back from scheduled downtime in Q3 2023 speaks volumes about Tesla&#39;s reliability and performance, bullish-minded analysts at Argus Research noted.</p><p>In spite of these seemingly solid results, Tesla is plagued by issues that have hurt its financial metrics. Their average selling prices (ASP) keep decreasing due to product mix changes and increased competition within the EV space. As of note, Tesla Y is &#34;one of the quickest-depreciating cars over the past year or so: the average price of a Tesla Model 3 is now about $26,000, $8,500 less than it was a year before&#34;, according to Patrick George from Inside EVs.</p><p>This kind of ASP dynamics has challenged Tesla&#39;s automotive gross margins which, while improving over last year, remain a topic of attention for investors. Additionally, Tesla&#39;s expansion into new markets and lines of business (including Cybertruck and its upcoming low-priced EV) takes significant capital outlay, increasing the company&#39;s debt position (although it&#39;s not that scary amid Tesla&#39;s debt-to-equity of just 0.18, according to Seeking Alpha data).</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/83e76d2c00b38b9a3998a7ef51499b80\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p></p><p>Tesla&#39;s market leadership in the EV market (51% market share of the US EV market, according to Argus) is a &#34;testament to their brand and technological strength&#34;. Also, Tesla&#39;s energy businesses - Powerwall and Megapack - are expanding quickly and seem to have great long-term growth prospects. According to InsightAce Analytic, the global stationary energy storage market is estimated to reach $215.10 billion by 2031, growing at a CAGR of 22.25% during the forecast period of 2024-2031 with Tesla being one of the key market players there:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e3f26a1721a19ba614598e26e409f2f2\" alt=\"InsightAce Analytic\" title=\"InsightAce Analytic\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"376\"/><span>InsightAce Analytic</span></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, Tesla is not immune to flaws and threats: This company&#39;s dependency on a handful of major markets, including the United States and China, places it at geopolitical and regulatory risk. Tesla is under strong pressure from domestic EV makers and could encounter regulatory obstacles in China, as it generates roughly a third of its consolidated sales there. In addition, Tesla’s high growth goals, including 20-30% growth in vehicle deliveries by 2025, are contingent on successful new product introductions and production capacity expansion. I think these projections are too optimistic when you see the market the company has to compete in today.</p><p>From Q4 2024 through FY2025, Tesla management set lofty expectations for both its EVs to be more accessible and its business to be autonomous. As new models roll out and production ramps up, Elon Musk expects Tesla’s vehicle deliveries to jump 20-30% by 2025. He also believes that the energy industry is likely to stay afloat with the Megapack and Powerwall markets continuing to grow.</p><p>Looking at the dynamics of analysts&#39; forecasts over the past month, we can see that the forecast EPS figures are gradually recovering from the sharp decline that has persisted since 2021. However, <em>the extent of the recovery in EPS forecasts seems too weak to me to justify the stock reaction we have seen in recent days.</em></p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e6bdbd4bdc93e3dbc34abf3834138fd3\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>That is to say, sure, the recent stock rise is likely to have been warranted, but not in the way it has been. My perception is that the stock has become too distant from the present.</p><p>Despite some obvious bullish hints, Tesla&#39;s aggressive pricing - to retain market share - may continue to stress margins. Add Tesla’s heavy capital spending agenda – necessary for the company’s ambitious growth strategy - and you have a nightmare scenario that threatens even current broadly positive consensus estimates of earnings.</p><p>The presence of Tesla in China is a blessing and a curse: It&#39;s one of Tesla&#39;s key markets, but the company is now also up against regional EV makers, who are quickly taking over the market. Since Trump is now president, regulatory and geopolitical concerns also threaten Tesla’s presence in China. Whether the firm will continue to succeed in the market depends on how it is able to get past these obstacles and maintain an edge over the others. For the most part, I don’t see this risk represented clearly by market expectations today.</p><p>Additionally, as any skeptic, I&#39;m baffled as to how the company is being valued today. Not only does the stock look overbought on traditional technical measures such as the Relative Strength Index, but it&#39;s also now trading far beyond the expectations of even the most loyal bulls. Look at the Morgan Stanley CFA Adam Jonas&#39; report (proprietary source, October 2024) – he expected Tesla to be $310/share in a year. But the stock is already trading above $340, 10% higher than what one of the most bullish analysts on the market was predicting.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da566d70b68ee0bc287c9b97ef3d10d0\" alt=\"Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added\" title=\"Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"328\"/><span>Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes added</span></p><p></p><p>A lot of people would argue that EPS growth is the reason for the company’s valuation to be as strong as it is right now. But let’s face it, if you’re looking at a rapidly growing business, your best bet would be the PEG ratio, which calculates the combination of the price-to-earnings multiple and the rate of earnings growth. For Tesla in particular, this ratio doesn&#39;t even approach 1x, which is typically the benchmark for fast-growing companies. This seems to be the case at least until the end of 2027, and I suspect it may continue to be so for some time.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a47258e2c54c301478e5dec891a0ef52\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added\" title=\"Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"346\"/><span>Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes added</span></p><p>In other words, recent events have led to what, I believe, is an unreasonably high premium in Tesla&#39;s stock price. This premium is so significant that it seems unlikely that prudent long-term investors, following the principles of Peter Lynch or any other renowned investor in fast-growing companies, can justify holding TSLA at these levels.</p><h2 id=\"id_2580866101\">Where Can I Be Wrong?</h2><p>I might be off base in the analysis of what the market believes is an acceleration for Tesla&#39;s stock price: Perhaps I am overlooking something or an impact on Tesla&#39;s stock price that isn&#39;t yet reflected in its price, which could mean Tesla stock would swell dramatically.</p><p>Additionally, the high demand in current energy markets, which is driving multiples higher with Tesla dominating the market with its Powerwall and Megapack solutions, could drive higher multiples as the market looks forward to a higher growth rate.</p><p>When or if the Tesla stock premium eventually will drop back down to more manageable levels, I don&#39;t know for sure, I can only guess that it will at some point. If it does, it could be devastating for existing shareholders, but then again, the company may simply outgrow its current large multiples, eliminating such threats.</p><h2 id=\"id_1695721782\">The Bottom Line</h2><p>I generally agree with the bulls that Tesla&#39;s high-growth plans for Q4 2024 and FY2025, resulting from new models and growth in the energy segment, present significant opportunities for value creation. However, the business will have to judiciously control risks related to the market environment, regulatory developments, and geopolitical uncertainty to meet its long-term targets. In addition, while Trump&#39;s presidency might offer some advantages to Elon Musk&#39;s business ecosystem, it also introduces risks for Tesla in particular. Increased U.S. pressure on Chinese manufacturers could provoke retaliatory actions, and Tesla, given the critical importance of the Chinese market to its operations, could be one of the first to feel the impact. I believe these risks are being overlooked by today&#39;s Tesla buyers, who have driven the company&#39;s market cap to unprecedented heights given the fundamental setup we&#39;re looking at. Currently, Tesla is trading even higher than the most optimistic bulls predicted at the end of last month; the growth potential that very optimistic market players anticipated for the next 12 months has already been realized and even exceeded - in just a couple of weeks.</p><p>If we assess the situation without excessive optimism and try to be as objective as possible, it becomes clear that the company is overvalued, with a premium that defies reasonable logic, in my opinion. This is why I have decided to maintain my &#34;Sell&#34; rating, despite its lack of success in the recent past (as it remained relevant for many months). I believe there are many other fast-growing companies in the market that deserve investors&#39; attention, and unfortunately, Tesla isn&#39;t one of them today.</p><p><em>Thank you for reading!</em></p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha_fund","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Doesn't Deserve This Rally\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-15 00:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryDespite Tesla's strong financials and growth, I maintain a \"Sell\" rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump's presidency and market FOMO.Tesla's recent stock surge is...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736784-tesla-stock-doesnt-deserve-this-rally-reiterate-sell","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1124787577","content_text":"SummaryDespite Tesla's strong financials and growth, I maintain a \"Sell\" rating due to overvaluation driven by speculative factors like Trump's presidency and market FOMO.Tesla's recent stock surge is attributed to potential benefits from Trump's policies, but these are uncertain and long term, not justifying the current price.Tesla's financial health is solid, with increased revenues and cash flow, but decreasing average selling prices and high capital expenditures pose risks.TSLA stock's current valuation exceeds even the most optimistic forecasts, making it an unattractive investment compared to other fast-growing companies.I am Danil Sereda, chief investment officer at a family office. I analyze information that ordinary retail investors do not have access to, and lead the investing group Beyond the Wall Investing.Tesla office, service station, American electric car manufacturer Elon Musk, current and major repairs, alternative energy development concept, electric vehicle production, Frankfurt - May 2023Intro & ThesisMy first article about Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) was published in October 2021 with a \"Buy\" rating, which I changed to \"Hold\" in October 2022 and eventually to \"Sell\" in April 2023. Since then, I have maintained my bearish rating on TSLA, which was aging well until recently - Trump's win led to a massive expansion in TSLA stock, which has been up over 60% over the past few years, according to Seeking Alpha's momentum data.Seeking Alpha, my coverage of TSLAWhile my bearish stance turned out to be wrong, I think the rally in Tesla stock itself is hard to explain fundamentally - it simply seems to be a reaction to a Trump-related catalyst that is unlikely to dramatically improve Tesla's business going forward. Given the valuation premium expansion and widespread FOMO I see on the market right now, I'm reiterating my previous \"Sell\" rating, being a contrarian to what's going on around.Why Do I Think So?First off, let's address what's driving the TSLA stock's expansion in November this year. I believe that most who are buying Tesla stock these days - aside from just trend followers - are betting on the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States as a potential tailwind for Tesla, especially in light of the electric vehicle subsidies created by the Inflation Reduction Act. Additionally, a Trump administration could still levy tariffs prohibiting lower-cost Chinese EVs from entering the US market, which will allow Tesla to maintain market dominance. Further, Elon Musk's potential advisory role to Trump may impact federal autonomous driving laws in the United States and speed up the regulatory approval process for Tesla's self-driving technologies.While these are all important developments for Tesla shareholders, I think the overall impact is too uncertain and too long-term to drive the stock's price up that much. I think we should look at Tesla's recent financials firsthand to really see and assess the company's medium-term prospects.Tesla's Q3 2024 report (published in late October 2024) showed an adjusted net profit of $2.505 billion, or $0.72 per diluted share (+9% YoY), beating analyst and management expectations. The earnings beat was driven by \"improved vehicle deliveries, better gross margins, and efficient cost-reduction efforts\", according to the management's commentary. Tesla's auto revenue grew by 2% to $20.016 billion and its Energy Generation and Storage revenue increased by 52% YoY to $2.379 billion, driven by \"high-demand Powerwall and Megapack products\", which achieved the highest deployments and a gross margin of 30.5%.Tesla's balance sheet remained healthy in general, as cash and cash equivalents were $33.65 billion at the close of Q3 2024. The firm's financial strength stems from its strong operating cash flows which reached $6.255 billion in Q3 - that's 89% more than last year. As a result, the FCF has gone up by about 3.2 times YoY. Though Tesla may consider share buybacks in the future, the current business environment doesn't support any buybacks until 2025-2026, I suppose.TSLA's IR materialsOn the liability side, Tesla's debt rose due to R&D, AI training, and production capacity investment. However, Tesla's debt/cap ratio is still lower than the industry norm, according to Argus Research data (proprietary source, November 2024), which is a testament to its sound financial control.Tesla delivered 462,890 vehicles during Q3, which was up 6% from the previous year driven primarily by the Model 3 and Model Y. The Shanghai facility, an integral part of Tesla's global production plans, ran at full capacity and provided substantial volumes to the firm. The plant’s bounce back from scheduled downtime in Q3 2023 speaks volumes about Tesla's reliability and performance, bullish-minded analysts at Argus Research noted.In spite of these seemingly solid results, Tesla is plagued by issues that have hurt its financial metrics. Their average selling prices (ASP) keep decreasing due to product mix changes and increased competition within the EV space. As of note, Tesla Y is \"one of the quickest-depreciating cars over the past year or so: the average price of a Tesla Model 3 is now about $26,000, $8,500 less than it was a year before\", according to Patrick George from Inside EVs.This kind of ASP dynamics has challenged Tesla's automotive gross margins which, while improving over last year, remain a topic of attention for investors. Additionally, Tesla's expansion into new markets and lines of business (including Cybertruck and its upcoming low-priced EV) takes significant capital outlay, increasing the company's debt position (although it's not that scary amid Tesla's debt-to-equity of just 0.18, according to Seeking Alpha data).ChartTesla's market leadership in the EV market (51% market share of the US EV market, according to Argus) is a \"testament to their brand and technological strength\". Also, Tesla's energy businesses - Powerwall and Megapack - are expanding quickly and seem to have great long-term growth prospects. According to InsightAce Analytic, the global stationary energy storage market is estimated to reach $215.10 billion by 2031, growing at a CAGR of 22.25% during the forecast period of 2024-2031 with Tesla being one of the key market players there:InsightAce AnalyticOn the other hand, Tesla is not immune to flaws and threats: This company's dependency on a handful of major markets, including the United States and China, places it at geopolitical and regulatory risk. Tesla is under strong pressure from domestic EV makers and could encounter regulatory obstacles in China, as it generates roughly a third of its consolidated sales there. In addition, Tesla’s high growth goals, including 20-30% growth in vehicle deliveries by 2025, are contingent on successful new product introductions and production capacity expansion. I think these projections are too optimistic when you see the market the company has to compete in today.From Q4 2024 through FY2025, Tesla management set lofty expectations for both its EVs to be more accessible and its business to be autonomous. As new models roll out and production ramps up, Elon Musk expects Tesla’s vehicle deliveries to jump 20-30% by 2025. He also believes that the energy industry is likely to stay afloat with the Megapack and Powerwall markets continuing to grow.Looking at the dynamics of analysts' forecasts over the past month, we can see that the forecast EPS figures are gradually recovering from the sharp decline that has persisted since 2021. However, the extent of the recovery in EPS forecasts seems too weak to me to justify the stock reaction we have seen in recent days.Seeking Alpha, TSLAThat is to say, sure, the recent stock rise is likely to have been warranted, but not in the way it has been. My perception is that the stock has become too distant from the present.Despite some obvious bullish hints, Tesla's aggressive pricing - to retain market share - may continue to stress margins. Add Tesla’s heavy capital spending agenda – necessary for the company’s ambitious growth strategy - and you have a nightmare scenario that threatens even current broadly positive consensus estimates of earnings.The presence of Tesla in China is a blessing and a curse: It's one of Tesla's key markets, but the company is now also up against regional EV makers, who are quickly taking over the market. Since Trump is now president, regulatory and geopolitical concerns also threaten Tesla’s presence in China. Whether the firm will continue to succeed in the market depends on how it is able to get past these obstacles and maintain an edge over the others. For the most part, I don’t see this risk represented clearly by market expectations today.Additionally, as any skeptic, I'm baffled as to how the company is being valued today. Not only does the stock look overbought on traditional technical measures such as the Relative Strength Index, but it's also now trading far beyond the expectations of even the most loyal bulls. Look at the Morgan Stanley CFA Adam Jonas' report (proprietary source, October 2024) – he expected Tesla to be $310/share in a year. But the stock is already trading above $340, 10% higher than what one of the most bullish analysts on the market was predicting.Morgan Stanley (private source), October 2024, notes addedA lot of people would argue that EPS growth is the reason for the company’s valuation to be as strong as it is right now. But let’s face it, if you’re looking at a rapidly growing business, your best bet would be the PEG ratio, which calculates the combination of the price-to-earnings multiple and the rate of earnings growth. For Tesla in particular, this ratio doesn't even approach 1x, which is typically the benchmark for fast-growing companies. This seems to be the case at least until the end of 2027, and I suspect it may continue to be so for some time.Seeking Alpha, TSLA, notes addedIn other words, recent events have led to what, I believe, is an unreasonably high premium in Tesla's stock price. This premium is so significant that it seems unlikely that prudent long-term investors, following the principles of Peter Lynch or any other renowned investor in fast-growing companies, can justify holding TSLA at these levels.Where Can I Be Wrong?I might be off base in the analysis of what the market believes is an acceleration for Tesla's stock price: Perhaps I am overlooking something or an impact on Tesla's stock price that isn't yet reflected in its price, which could mean Tesla stock would swell dramatically.Additionally, the high demand in current energy markets, which is driving multiples higher with Tesla dominating the market with its Powerwall and Megapack solutions, could drive higher multiples as the market looks forward to a higher growth rate.When or if the Tesla stock premium eventually will drop back down to more manageable levels, I don't know for sure, I can only guess that it will at some point. If it does, it could be devastating for existing shareholders, but then again, the company may simply outgrow its current large multiples, eliminating such threats.The Bottom LineI generally agree with the bulls that Tesla's high-growth plans for Q4 2024 and FY2025, resulting from new models and growth in the energy segment, present significant opportunities for value creation. However, the business will have to judiciously control risks related to the market environment, regulatory developments, and geopolitical uncertainty to meet its long-term targets. In addition, while Trump's presidency might offer some advantages to Elon Musk's business ecosystem, it also introduces risks for Tesla in particular. Increased U.S. pressure on Chinese manufacturers could provoke retaliatory actions, and Tesla, given the critical importance of the Chinese market to its operations, could be one of the first to feel the impact. I believe these risks are being overlooked by today's Tesla buyers, who have driven the company's market cap to unprecedented heights given the fundamental setup we're looking at. Currently, Tesla is trading even higher than the most optimistic bulls predicted at the end of last month; the growth potential that very optimistic market players anticipated for the next 12 months has already been realized and even exceeded - in just a couple of weeks.If we assess the situation without excessive optimism and try to be as objective as possible, it becomes clear that the company is overvalued, with a premium that defies reasonable logic, in my opinion. This is why I have decided to maintain my \"Sell\" rating, despite its lack of success in the recent past (as it remained relevant for many months). I believe there are many other fast-growing companies in the market that deserve investors' attention, and unfortunately, Tesla isn't one of them today.Thank you for reading!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":245,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":366428004249832,"gmtCreate":1730468379628,"gmtModify":1730468383611,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"SO many hatets around. THe more the merrier. Pls keep shorting. So that the peice can go up even more","listText":"SO many hatets around. THe more the merrier. Pls keep shorting. So that the peice can go up even more","text":"SO many hatets around. THe more the merrier. Pls keep shorting. So that the peice can go up even more","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/366428004249832","repostId":"2480001074","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2480001074","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1730512800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2480001074?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-11-02 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Don’t Let Tesla’s Big Moves Fool You. Where the Chart Says the Stock Is Heading Next","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2480001074","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Tesla stock fell on Friday, failing to take shares to akey leveltraders were looking for.Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock fell on Friday, failing to take shares to akey leveltraders were looking for.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6490391a04aec93f1d543e9c4834327f\" alt=\"Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.\" title=\"Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.\" tg-width=\"958\" tg-height=\"631\"/><span>Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares of the electric vehicle maker fell 0.3% to $248.98 while the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.4% and 0.7%, respectively.</p><p>The stock finished roughly $16, or 6%, away from $265, a level where it has run into resistance for months.</p><p>Resistance is a term used by technical stock market analysts that describes where investors have sold stock to take profits. It’s like an invisible ceiling for a share price.</p><p>Technical analysts don’t make fundamental calls on Tesla or other shares. They look at stock charts to get a sense of where a stock could go over the short and medium term.</p><p>Tesla shares broke through that resistance, closing at $269.19 this past Friday following better-than-expected third-quarter earnings. It was a sign that shares could be breaking through the ceiling.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">But one close above $265 isn’t a trend and it’s a better sign if a stock can keep closing above key levels.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“A breakout would require two weekly…closes above that level to be confirmed [and] decisive,” says Fairlead Strategies founder and technical analyst Katie Stockton.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Confirmation didn’t happen. Tesla shares closed Thursday below $250, dropping 3%. The market deserved some of the blame. The S&amp;P 500 dropped 1.9%, reacting badly to inflation data and earnings from Microsoft. Shares of the tech giant fell 6.1%</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A failed breakout likely leaves Tesla stock trading in a range. The opposite of resistance is support. The $243 level is now “possible support,” adds Stockton. Below that, investors will be looking at 50-day and 200-day moving averages of about $$233 and $202, respectively.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It would have taken some heavy lifting to get shares north of $265. They needed a roughly 5% gain on Friday. Tesla stock has gained more than 5% in a day 227 times over its history as a publicly traded company, according to FactSet. That’s about 0.6% of the time.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It looks as if investors decided to take profits on Tesla stock, again, around $265. Earnings didn’t change that.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Through Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 50 cents, or 0.2%, year to date. It’s a small move, but the path to flat has been wild. Shares were up about 80% from a 52-week intraday low reached in April. Shares were down about 10% from a 52-week intraday high reached after Tesla’s third-quarter earnings report.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Don’t Let Tesla’s Big Moves Fool You. Where the Chart Says the Stock Is Heading Next</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nDon’t Let Tesla’s Big Moves Fool You. Where the Chart Says the Stock Is Heading Next\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-02 10:00</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock fell on Friday, failing to take shares to akey leveltraders were looking for.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6490391a04aec93f1d543e9c4834327f\" alt=\"Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.\" title=\"Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.\" tg-width=\"958\" tg-height=\"631\"/><span>Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares of the electric vehicle maker fell 0.3% to $248.98 while the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.4% and 0.7%, respectively.</p><p>The stock finished roughly $16, or 6%, away from $265, a level where it has run into resistance for months.</p><p>Resistance is a term used by technical stock market analysts that describes where investors have sold stock to take profits. It’s like an invisible ceiling for a share price.</p><p>Technical analysts don’t make fundamental calls on Tesla or other shares. They look at stock charts to get a sense of where a stock could go over the short and medium term.</p><p>Tesla shares broke through that resistance, closing at $269.19 this past Friday following better-than-expected third-quarter earnings. It was a sign that shares could be breaking through the ceiling.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">But one close above $265 isn’t a trend and it’s a better sign if a stock can keep closing above key levels.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“A breakout would require two weekly…closes above that level to be confirmed [and] decisive,” says Fairlead Strategies founder and technical analyst Katie Stockton.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Confirmation didn’t happen. Tesla shares closed Thursday below $250, dropping 3%. The market deserved some of the blame. The S&amp;P 500 dropped 1.9%, reacting badly to inflation data and earnings from Microsoft. Shares of the tech giant fell 6.1%</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A failed breakout likely leaves Tesla stock trading in a range. The opposite of resistance is support. The $243 level is now “possible support,” adds Stockton. Below that, investors will be looking at 50-day and 200-day moving averages of about $$233 and $202, respectively.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It would have taken some heavy lifting to get shares north of $265. They needed a roughly 5% gain on Friday. Tesla stock has gained more than 5% in a day 227 times over its history as a publicly traded company, according to FactSet. That’s about 0.6% of the time.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It looks as if investors decided to take profits on Tesla stock, again, around $265. Earnings didn’t change that.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Through Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 50 cents, or 0.2%, year to date. It’s a small move, but the path to flat has been wild. Shares were up about 80% from a 52-week intraday low reached in April. Shares were down about 10% from a 52-week intraday high reached after Tesla’s third-quarter earnings report.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2480001074","content_text":"Tesla stock fell on Friday, failing to take shares to akey leveltraders were looking for.Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was down about 7% for the week, leaving share up about 1% year to date.Shares of the electric vehicle maker fell 0.3% to $248.98 while the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.4% and 0.7%, respectively.The stock finished roughly $16, or 6%, away from $265, a level where it has run into resistance for months.Resistance is a term used by technical stock market analysts that describes where investors have sold stock to take profits. It’s like an invisible ceiling for a share price.Technical analysts don’t make fundamental calls on Tesla or other shares. They look at stock charts to get a sense of where a stock could go over the short and medium term.Tesla shares broke through that resistance, closing at $269.19 this past Friday following better-than-expected third-quarter earnings. It was a sign that shares could be breaking through the ceiling.But one close above $265 isn’t a trend and it’s a better sign if a stock can keep closing above key levels.“A breakout would require two weekly…closes above that level to be confirmed [and] decisive,” says Fairlead Strategies founder and technical analyst Katie Stockton.Confirmation didn’t happen. Tesla shares closed Thursday below $250, dropping 3%. The market deserved some of the blame. The S&P 500 dropped 1.9%, reacting badly to inflation data and earnings from Microsoft. Shares of the tech giant fell 6.1%A failed breakout likely leaves Tesla stock trading in a range. The opposite of resistance is support. The $243 level is now “possible support,” adds Stockton. Below that, investors will be looking at 50-day and 200-day moving averages of about $$233 and $202, respectively.It would have taken some heavy lifting to get shares north of $265. They needed a roughly 5% gain on Friday. Tesla stock has gained more than 5% in a day 227 times over its history as a publicly traded company, according to FactSet. That’s about 0.6% of the time.It looks as if investors decided to take profits on Tesla stock, again, around $265. Earnings didn’t change that.Through Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 50 cents, or 0.2%, year to date. It’s a small move, but the path to flat has been wild. Shares were up about 80% from a 52-week intraday low reached in April. Shares were down about 10% from a 52-week intraday high reached after Tesla’s third-quarter earnings report.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":125,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386546176880832,"gmtCreate":1735382687589,"gmtModify":1735382691562,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sour grape","listText":"Sour grape","text":"Sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386546176880832","repostId":"2494483318","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2494483318","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735524000,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2494483318?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-30 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2494483318","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.Investors are excited about the company's future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.Shares of Tesla declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed i","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is due to report its electric vehicle delivery numbers for the final quarter of 2024 on Jan. 2.</p></li><li><p>Deliveries are on track to decline on an annual basis for the first time since the company launched the Model S in 2011.</p></li><li><p>Investors are excited about the company&#39;s future in autonomous driving, but its stock is extremely expensive at the moment.</p></li></ul><p>Shares of <strong>Tesla</strong> declined by 42% in the first few months of 2024. As of this writing, it&#39;s now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.</p><p>Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump&#39;s election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration&#39;s policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.</p><p>With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla&#39;s stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?</p><h2 id=\"id_2721806520\">Tesla&#39;s EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024</h2><p>The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn&#39;t. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% <em>drop</em> from the same period last year. That puts Tesla&#39;s deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.</p><p>That&#39;s a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company&#39;s total revenue. If this part of its business isn&#39;t performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).</p><p>As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can&#39;t happen if sales aren&#39;t keeping up.</p><p>The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like <strong>Ford </strong>and <strong>General Motors </strong>slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.</p><p>Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. <strong>BYD</strong>, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can&#39;t compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a3e1eccd0d9264e1c4caf8f2deb2b939\" alt=\"Image source: Tesla.\" title=\"Image source: Tesla.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/><span>Image source: Tesla.</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3123686335\">Deliveries aren&#39;t the main thing driving Tesla stock</h2><p>You might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company&#39;s full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla&#39;s new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.</p><p>It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won&#39;t come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla&#39;s FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.</p><p>Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.</p><p>FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla&#39;s passenger EVs, but it isn&#39;t actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.</p><p>Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood&#39;s Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That&#39;s why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.</p><h2 id=\"id_3272353205\">Tesla stock is extremely expensive right now</h2><p>Before investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company&#39;s trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it&#39;s more than twice as expensive as <strong>Nvidia</strong>!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2599b164d8622f793c8d0e6ec76774f4\" alt=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" title=\"TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.</span></p><p>The <strong>Nasdaq-100</strong> technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it&#39;s home to most of Tesla&#39;s big-tech peers, it really puts the company&#39;s sky-high valuation into perspective.</p><p>As I highlighted earlier, Tesla&#39;s deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.</p><p>Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it&#39;s unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won&#39;t enter mass production until 2026.</p><p>As a result, it&#39;s extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don&#39;t own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Buy Tesla Stock Before Jan. 2?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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As of this writing, it's now up by a whopping 86% year to date, and it recently surpassed its all-time high from 2021.Why the stunning turnaround? CEO Elon Musk put his cash and influence behind Donald Trump's election campaign, which may have helped him bring the victory home. As a result, investors are speculating that Tesla will benefit from the incoming administration's policies, which is why most of the gain in its stock for 2024 occurred after Election Day on Nov. 5.With the year drawing to a close, the company is almost due to report its fourth-quarter production and delivery numbers for its electric vehicles (EVs). Those figures should be announced on Jan. 2, and they have the potential to move Tesla's stock. So, should investors buy it beforehand?Tesla's EV deliveries are on track to decline in 2024The stock might be having a great year, but its core business isn't. The company delivered 1.29 million EVs during the first three quarters of 2024, which was a 2.3% drop from the same period last year. That puts Tesla's deliveries on track for their first annual decline since the company launched its flagship Model S in 2011.That's a problem, because EV sales still account for 79% of the company's total revenue. If this part of its business isn't performing, it becomes very hard to justify further upside in its stock (more on this later).As recently as last year, Musk forecast a 50% annual increase in EV production as far as the eye can see, but that production push can't happen if sales aren't keeping up.The company faces a number of challenges. EV demand appears to be softening in general, with legacy automakers like Ford and General Motors slashing billions of dollars from their planned investments into this segment over the last couple of years. Just four months ago, Ford scrapped its new electric sport utility vehicle entirely, after investing $1.9 billion in developing it. It will focus on hybrids instead, which are more familiar to drivers of old-school gas cars and also sell at a cheaper price point.Competition from low-cost EV manufacturers in countries like China have also hurt Tesla. BYD, for example, sells a $10,000 model in China, and it plans to launch it in Europe in 2025. Tesla has a large presence in both of those markets, and it simply can't compete at that price point. That is unlikely to change, because Musk recently canceled his plans to produce a low-cost EV.Image source: Tesla.Deliveries aren't the main thing driving Tesla stockYou might be wondering why Tesla stock is soaring in light of all of the issues I highlighted above. Investors are more focused on the company's full self-driving (FSD) software, which could transform its economics. In fact, the reason Musk scrapped the low-cost EV is because he wants to focus on Tesla's new autonomous robotaxi, which is called the Cybercab.It should enter mass production in 2026, and it won't come with pedals or even a steering wheel because it will run entirely on Tesla's FSD software. The company plans to operate an autonomous ride-hailing network where Cybercabs can earn revenue around the clock by hauling passengers.Consumers will be able to buy them for personal use, or they can use them to operate their own autonomous ride-hailing fleet.FSD is already available in beta mode for owners of Tesla's passenger EVs, but it isn't actually approved for unsupervised use anywhere in the U.S. just yet. Investors are betting the incoming Trump administration will operate a much more easygoing regulatory regime, which could potentially fast-track FSD approval.Top Wall Street technology analyst Dan Ives predicts FSD represents a $1 trillion opportunity for Tesla. Similarly, Cathie Wood's Ark Invest believes the company will generate $1.2 trillion in annual revenue by 2029, with 63% coming from FSD and the Cybercab. That's why Tesla stock rocketed higher after the election -- the sooner FSD is approved, the quicker the company can unlock that value.Tesla stock is extremely expensive right nowBefore investors jump in to buy the stock before Jan. 2, they need to consider its valuation. Based on the company's trailing-12-month earnings per share of $3.65, the stock trades at a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) of 125.That makes it one of the priciest large-cap tech stocks in the U.S. -- it's more than twice as expensive as Nvidia!TSLA PE ratio; data by YCharts.The Nasdaq-100 technology index trades at a P/E of just 33.9, and considering it's home to most of Tesla's big-tech peers, it really puts the company's sky-high valuation into perspective.As I highlighted earlier, Tesla's deliveries are on track to shrink in 2024 once the final numbers for the year are officially reported on Jan. 2. Without growth, its stock has no justifiable reason to trade at such a lofty level.Musk believes deliveries could increase by as much as 30% in 2025. However, it's unclear where that growth will come from, since there is no low-cost EV on the way, and the Cybercab won't enter mass production until 2026.As a result, it's extremely unlikely the Jan. 2 report will contain anything that will make Tesla seem attractive at the current price, so investors who don't own it already might want to sit on the sidelines until we see a meaningful correction.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":492,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":384822540173368,"gmtCreate":1734970226955,"gmtModify":1734970230641,"author":{"id":"4151941377592162","authorId":"4151941377592162","name":"zelia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4151941377592162","authorIdStr":"4151941377592162"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So many many many sour grapes around","listText":"So many many many sour grapes around","text":"So many many many sour grapes around","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/384822540173368","repostId":"2493683769","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2493683769","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1735036200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2493683769?lang=&edition=full_marsco","pubTime":"2024-12-24 18:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Record Deliveries Expected. This Is Why It Probably Doesn't Matter For TSLA","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2493683769","media":"Investor’s Business Daily","summary":"The company could hit record Q4 deliveries but it may not mean anything for TSLA.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The fourth quarter is ending soon and <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a></strong> is attempting to shatter its previous delivery record. Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be seen whether that will be enough to propel the company to yearly unit delivery growth. Tesla stock rose Monday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A Monday note from Barclays estimated Tesla&#39;s total Q4 deliveries at 515,000 units, the magic number which would represent year-over-year delivery growth compared to 1.8 million in 2023. The analysts wrote this will &#34;keep stock&#39;s narrative momentum strong.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">However, the firm believes investor focus on Tesla stock&#39;s fundamentals is generally limited and that a light near-term volume miss &#34;would likely do little to dampen&#34; TSLA&#39;s rally, fueled by President-elect Donald Trump, autonomous vehicle and artificial intelligence.</p><p>Meanwhile, Barclays also wrote that Tesla&#39;s Q4 result is likely &#34;immaterial to the majority of the current Tesla bull case.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA shares jumped 2.3% to 430.60 during market action on Monday after booking a 3.5% decline last week. The stock is on a 70% tear since Trump&#39;s election win, as investors speculate that self-driving is coming soon, with the Trump administration easing the regulatory path for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>On Wednesday, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday. Despite last week&#39;s decline, Tesla stock is still above its 21-day line and 50-day moving average. Shares are still in a huge uptrend and due for some consolidation.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Barclays analysts on Dec. 18 wrote the postelection rally in TSLA shares reflects a &#34;sharp disconnect&#34; between the stock and the company&#39;s fundamentals. The firm wrote that technicals and options are playing an outsized role in the rally and that Tesla shares are now best compared to cryptocurrencies.</p><h2 id=\"id_2087101716\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Q4 Deliveries</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV giant has said it expects &#34;slight&#34; vehicle deliveries growth this year, but with the end of the fourth quarter fast approaching, Tesla finds itself looking for answers with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe.</p><p>The company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.8 million in 2023 and while Tesla has said that sort of increase this year is out of reach, it is predicting growth in its automobile segment.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;Despite ongoing macroeconomic conditions, we expect to achieve slight growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024,&#34; Tesla said in its third-quarter earnings release.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow &#34;20%-30%&#34; in 2025.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With Tesla predicting slight vehicle delivery growth in 2024 vs. 2023&#39;s 1.81 million, the EV giant needs 514,925 deliveries in Q4, far more than the Q4 2023 record of 484,507. Analyst consensus currently forecasts 498,000 vehicle deliveries in Q4 and 1.79 million for 2024, according to FactSet.</p><h2 id=\"id_1262385519\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Stock Performance</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company&#39;s longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bc7b710755378fe26813fc8902a26fc1\" tg-width=\"1210\" tg-height=\"649\"/></p><p>Tesla stock has surged in recent weeks in part on hopes that self-driving is finally on the way. Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA stock is now on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 93 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. 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Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-record-deliveries-expected-but-does-it-matter/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-record-deliveries-expected-but-does-it-matter/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2493683769","content_text":"The fourth quarter is ending soon and Tesla is attempting to shatter its previous delivery record. Analysts see the EV giant setting a new quarterly record for vehicle deliveries, but it remains to be seen whether that will be enough to propel the company to yearly unit delivery growth. Tesla stock rose Monday.A Monday note from Barclays estimated Tesla's total Q4 deliveries at 515,000 units, the magic number which would represent year-over-year delivery growth compared to 1.8 million in 2023. The analysts wrote this will \"keep stock's narrative momentum strong.\"However, the firm believes investor focus on Tesla stock's fundamentals is generally limited and that a light near-term volume miss \"would likely do little to dampen\" TSLA's rally, fueled by President-elect Donald Trump, autonomous vehicle and artificial intelligence.Meanwhile, Barclays also wrote that Tesla's Q4 result is likely \"immaterial to the majority of the current Tesla bull case.\"TSLA shares jumped 2.3% to 430.60 during market action on Monday after booking a 3.5% decline last week. The stock is on a 70% tear since Trump's election win, as investors speculate that self-driving is coming soon, with the Trump administration easing the regulatory path for autonomous vehicles.On Wednesday, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday. Despite last week's decline, Tesla stock is still above its 21-day line and 50-day moving average. Shares are still in a huge uptrend and due for some consolidation.Barclays analysts on Dec. 18 wrote the postelection rally in TSLA shares reflects a \"sharp disconnect\" between the stock and the company's fundamentals. The firm wrote that technicals and options are playing an outsized role in the rally and that Tesla shares are now best compared to cryptocurrencies.Tesla Q4 DeliveriesThe EV giant has said it expects \"slight\" vehicle deliveries growth this year, but with the end of the fourth quarter fast approaching, Tesla finds itself looking for answers with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe.The company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.8 million in 2023 and while Tesla has said that sort of increase this year is out of reach, it is predicting growth in its automobile segment.\"Despite ongoing macroeconomic conditions, we expect to achieve slight growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024,\" Tesla said in its third-quarter earnings release.Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow \"20%-30%\" in 2025.With Tesla predicting slight vehicle delivery growth in 2024 vs. 2023's 1.81 million, the EV giant needs 514,925 deliveries in Q4, far more than the Q4 2023 record of 484,507. Analyst consensus currently forecasts 498,000 vehicle deliveries in Q4 and 1.79 million for 2024, according to FactSet.Tesla Stock PerformanceTesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company's longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.Tesla stock has surged in recent weeks in part on hopes that self-driving is finally on the way. Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended.Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.TSLA stock is now on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 93 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. 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