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  ·2021-07-25
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  ·2021-07-10
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  Coupang Vs. Amazon Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?
  Summary E-commerce has benefitted from the pandemic, but will continue to enjoy healthy growth in t
  Coupang Vs. Amazon Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?
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  ·2021-07-09
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  ·2021-07-01
  Law of gravity... what goes up must come down
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  ·2021-06-30
  Updated thinking ... Crypto shall be part of the investment portfolio
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  ·2021-06-27
  Definitely NIO
  Ford Or NIO? The Final Verdict
  I am comparing Ford against NIO in different categories.The comparison is intended to improve the understanding of Ford's and NIO's growth potential while highlighting differences in market position and opportunities.NIO is growing a lot faster than Ford and the high valuation may be justified.With Ford launching a major offensive in the market for electric vehicles, Chinese EV maker NIO will face one more rival competing for sales in the future. Which vehicle maker offers the best deal based
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  ·2021-06-26
  Buy buy buy
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  ·2021-06-21
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  ·2021-06-19
  Please like and comment.... hope you get Rich!!!!!
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Amazon Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1162091150","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Summary\n\nE-commerce has benefitted from the pandemic, but will continue to enjoy healthy growth in t","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>E-commerce has benefitted from the pandemic, but will continue to enjoy healthy growth in the coming years.</li>\n <li>Both Amazon and Coupang are generating strong growth, with CPNG growing faster, but from a much slower base.</li>\n <li>There are advantages for both companies, and ultimately, which stock you prefer will depend on your investment goals and approach.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/892697f4211267c99a72ea0a86b7e464\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\"><span>blackCAT/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>E-commerce has benefitted a lot from pandemic-related shopping trends that favored online shopping versus in-store shopping, but even apart from that, e-commerce is here to stay and will enjoy healthy growth for many years. Amazon.com, Inc.(NASDAQ:AMZN)is the most dominant online retailer in the West, but other markets are primarily served by other online shopping companies. Coupang Inc.(NYSE:CPNG)from South Korea recently IPO'd in the US, and in this article, we will pitch the two against each other. Amazon looks like the more complete company with a wider moat to me, but Coupang is also an interesting play due to its position in an attractive, high-growth market.</p>\n<p><b>Coupang Stock Price</b></p>\n<p>Coupang Inc. has IPO'd in the US in March, raising more than&nbsp;$4 billion. Shares are currently trading for $40, which is below the prices of ~$50 that the stock traded at shortly following its IPO:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc6beaaae203d6b0db64793dd67bbbc9\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Shares have, however, risen considerably from the lows that the company hit in May, which could be the result of improving sentiment as the company reported&nbsp;very solid Q1 results&nbsp;that showed the company grew faster than expected. The current consensus price target is $44, which indicates that analysts are expecting an upside potential of around 10% over the next year -- solid, but not spectacular. Coupang is backed by major investors including&nbsp;the Gates Foundation&nbsp;and Softbank(OTCPK:SFTBY), which indicates that this is much more than a hyped-up IPO.</p>\n<p><b>Amazon Stock Price</b></p>\n<p>Amazon.com, Inc. has been trading for a much longer period than Coupang, and it is a way larger company already. Over the years, shares generated strong returns for investors that held onto shares, the 10-year return is north of 1,600%.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6be201519c9538851784f110ef0f13f3\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>In 2021, however, shares have so far not risen by a lot, as investors do seem to favor stocks with exposure to economic reopening right now. Energy names, hospitality, etc. have been hot so far this year, whereas the big tech names such as Amazon, which had been strong performers in 2020, have not experienced huge gains year-to-date. The current analyst consensus price target for Amazon's shares is $4240, which suggests upside potential of around 15%, a little more than what analysts are expecting from Coupang right now.</p>\n<p><b>Coupang's Size Relative To Amazon?</b></p>\n<p>It's pretty obvious that Coupang is not bigger than Amazon. It doesn't matter whether you look at market capitalizations, revenue, profits, cash flows, or the employee count, Amazon is a giant and significantly larger than its South Korean peer:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/13e93ec2cee718b6836730e5b0d94cd2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"577\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>This isn't too much of a surprise, as Amazon has been founded 27 years ago and has had a lot of time to grow, whereas Coupang has only been around for a little over a decade. Amazon in 2005, when it was 11 years old, was a way smaller company than it is today, and it also was still unprofitable -- as Coupang is today. There is, however, no need to always buy the biggest companies, thus Amazon being larger than Coupang today does not necessarily equate to Amazon being a better investment. Other factors have to be considered for that as well.</p>\n<p><b>Is Coupang Better Than Amazon?</b></p>\n<p>When considering an investment, things that should be factored in are the growth outlook for a company, the stock's valuation, the company's risk profile and standing relative to competitors, and the overall quality.</p>\n<p>Looking at Coupang and Amazon, both companies are naturally poised to benefit from a long-term megatrend -- shopping shifting from brick-and-mortar to e-commerce. Note that this doesn't mean that brick-and-mortar retailers are all poised to die out, as we believe that higher-quality brick-and-mortar retailers (e.g. Home Depot(NYSE:HD)) and higher-quality brick-and-mortar real estate (e.g. Simon Property Group(NYSE:SPG)) will continue to do well. It is nevertheless relatively clear that, overall, e-commerce will continue to gain market share versus brick-and-mortar, with lower-quality traditional retailers taking the majority of the hit. Some goods are just very easily bought online, e.g. everyday clothes, books, etc. and online retailers should continue to make gains in these areas. On top of that, the overall consumer market continues to grow in both the US and internationally, which benefits online retailers as well.</p>\n<p>Amazon and Coupang also have the ability to boost their growth by expanding into additional markets, either geographically, or by building out new businesses. Amazon has very successfully done so and has become a major retailer not only in the US, but in many additional markets on top of that, and Amazon has also successfully built out a high-growth cloud computing business and is becoming a major player in online advertising.</p>\n<p>Coupang, as a much smaller and younger company, has not had the ability to expand its business as much as Amazon yet. Still, the Korean online retailer has managed to grow its business at a highly attractive pace, and one might even say that Coupang has outperformed Amazon in its home market South Korea. The company's success can be attributed to a smart and customer-focused approach that includes<i>Dawn Delivery</i>, a service that allows customers to order before midnight and receiving their order before 7 am the next day. Coupang also has reduced cardboard packaging significantly relative to how other online retailers operate, a move that resonates well with environmentally conscious customers. Through these measures and others, Coupang has been able to deliver rapid revenue growth in the recent past, which includes a massive 75% revenue increase during the most recent quarter. Amazon grew its revenue by 44% in the most recent quarter, although it should be noted that Amazon is growing from a much larger base. The law of large numbers means that Amazon, due to its already very large size, can't grow at the rapid rates Coupang is currently seeing any longer, and the fact that Amazon is, despite its size, still growing at an attractive 40%+ pace is testament to its strong business model.</p>\n<p>Coupang is the higher-growth company today, and one can expect that this will remain the case in the foreseeable future, with the smaller size being a key factor for that -- growing revenue from $20 billion to $40 billion is easier than growing revenue from $500 billion to $1 trillion. Coupang is, however, unlike Amazon, not profitable yet, which may result in share count dilution as Coupang could do a secondary offering to access additional capital. Coupang is also less diversified than Amazon, both geographically and when it comes to different industries. Amazon, with its marketing and cloud computing platforms, is more of a diversified company than Coupang, which is fully reliant on e-commerce.</p>\n<p>I don't think that there is a clear 'better buy' here, as both companies have their pros and cons. Coupang is growing faster and could double or triple its revenue more easily, but Amazon could be called the more dominant, wider-moat, more diversified pick that is also profitable and generates huge cash flows already.</p>\n<p>Looking at valuations, we can't value Coupang based on profits, as those are not existent yet. Taking a look at the two companies' respective market capitalizations relative to the revenues that they generate, we get the following picture:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38b42b77df5f43ac7316fdb87ed98010\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"447\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>We see that both companies trade around 3.5x forward revenue, thus from a valuation perspective, there is no major difference here, except for the fact that AMZN is, unlike CPNG, generating profits with these revenues. One could thus argue that AMZN's revenues are of a higher quality compared to the revenues generated by CPNG.</p>\n<p>Comparing the P/S valuations of AMZN and CPNG trade at compared to some other online retailers, both companies do seem relatively inexpensive:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5c9a55a87fb44372d3e5b188f34ff98e\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"467\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Many other online retailers trade at significantly higher sales multiples, including Shopify(NYSE:SHOP), which seems ultra-expensive at more than 40x forward. In Shopify's defense, one can argue that its more \"techy\" business deserves a higher sales multiple compared to the pure retailers. But even when one compares AMZN and CPNG to more similar companies such as Pinduoduo(NASDAQ:PDD)or MercadoLibre(NASDAQ:MELI), both AMZN and CPNG do seem inexpensive.</p>\n<p><b>Is Coupang Or Amazon Stock The Better Buy?</b></p>\n<p>As shown above, both companies do have their advantages, and which company you ultimately will prefer depends on what things you value the most when choosing an investment. Due to its larger scale, profitability, and strong diversification AMZN seems like the lower-risk choice to me, and its dominant position in its home market and the highly attractive cloud computing market position it well for the future, I believe. Coupang is not unattractive, either, however, and its higher revenue growth rate, coupled with an inexpensive sales multiple, could allow for considerable long-term upside.</p>\n<p>Neither company is risk-less, and due to the online retailers' exposure to consumer spending, both companies could be exposed to an economic downturn -- which I don't see as likely in the foreseeable future, however. On top of that, regulation seems like a possible risk, which may be more pronounced for Amazon due to its much larger size. On the other hand, Amazon is less dependent on a single geographic market, which results in some built-in diversification relative to the more focused Coupang.</p>\n<p>Depending on whether you want a diversified giant that is entrenched in many different markets, or whether you prefer a pure-play on consumers in South Korea, Amazon and/or Coupang could both be solid choices for your portfolio. I personally am long Amazon and see this stock&nbsp;delivering solid gains&nbsp;in the long run, even though shares aren't especially cheap at 67x this year's profits.</p>\n<p>Coupang is definitely an interesting choice as well, however, especially when we consider that its shares do trade at a massive discount relative to other regionally-focused mid-sized online retailers such as MercadoLibre and Pinduoduo.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Coupang Vs. 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Amazon Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-10 09:57 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4438343-coupang-vs-amazon-stock-better-buy><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nE-commerce has benefitted from the pandemic, but will continue to enjoy healthy growth in the coming years.\nBoth Amazon and Coupang are generating strong growth, with CPNG growing faster, but...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4438343-coupang-vs-amazon-stock-better-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMZN":"亚马逊","CPNG":"Coupang, Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4438343-coupang-vs-amazon-stock-better-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1162091150","content_text":"Summary\n\nE-commerce has benefitted from the pandemic, but will continue to enjoy healthy growth in the coming years.\nBoth Amazon and Coupang are generating strong growth, with CPNG growing faster, but from a much slower base.\nThere are advantages for both companies, and ultimately, which stock you prefer will depend on your investment goals and approach.\n\nblackCAT/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nE-commerce has benefitted a lot from pandemic-related shopping trends that favored online shopping versus in-store shopping, but even apart from that, e-commerce is here to stay and will enjoy healthy growth for many years. Amazon.com, Inc.(NASDAQ:AMZN)is the most dominant online retailer in the West, but other markets are primarily served by other online shopping companies. Coupang Inc.(NYSE:CPNG)from South Korea recently IPO'd in the US, and in this article, we will pitch the two against each other. Amazon looks like the more complete company with a wider moat to me, but Coupang is also an interesting play due to its position in an attractive, high-growth market.\nCoupang Stock Price\nCoupang Inc. has IPO'd in the US in March, raising more than $4 billion. Shares are currently trading for $40, which is below the prices of ~$50 that the stock traded at shortly following its IPO:\nData by YCharts\nShares have, however, risen considerably from the lows that the company hit in May, which could be the result of improving sentiment as the company reported very solid Q1 results that showed the company grew faster than expected. The current consensus price target is $44, which indicates that analysts are expecting an upside potential of around 10% over the next year -- solid, but not spectacular. Coupang is backed by major investors including the Gates Foundation and Softbank(OTCPK:SFTBY), which indicates that this is much more than a hyped-up IPO.\nAmazon Stock Price\nAmazon.com, Inc. has been trading for a much longer period than Coupang, and it is a way larger company already. Over the years, shares generated strong returns for investors that held onto shares, the 10-year return is north of 1,600%.\nData by YCharts\nIn 2021, however, shares have so far not risen by a lot, as investors do seem to favor stocks with exposure to economic reopening right now. Energy names, hospitality, etc. have been hot so far this year, whereas the big tech names such as Amazon, which had been strong performers in 2020, have not experienced huge gains year-to-date. The current analyst consensus price target for Amazon's shares is $4240, which suggests upside potential of around 15%, a little more than what analysts are expecting from Coupang right now.\nCoupang's Size Relative To Amazon?\nIt's pretty obvious that Coupang is not bigger than Amazon. It doesn't matter whether you look at market capitalizations, revenue, profits, cash flows, or the employee count, Amazon is a giant and significantly larger than its South Korean peer:\nData by YCharts\nThis isn't too much of a surprise, as Amazon has been founded 27 years ago and has had a lot of time to grow, whereas Coupang has only been around for a little over a decade. Amazon in 2005, when it was 11 years old, was a way smaller company than it is today, and it also was still unprofitable -- as Coupang is today. There is, however, no need to always buy the biggest companies, thus Amazon being larger than Coupang today does not necessarily equate to Amazon being a better investment. Other factors have to be considered for that as well.\nIs Coupang Better Than Amazon?\nWhen considering an investment, things that should be factored in are the growth outlook for a company, the stock's valuation, the company's risk profile and standing relative to competitors, and the overall quality.\nLooking at Coupang and Amazon, both companies are naturally poised to benefit from a long-term megatrend -- shopping shifting from brick-and-mortar to e-commerce. Note that this doesn't mean that brick-and-mortar retailers are all poised to die out, as we believe that higher-quality brick-and-mortar retailers (e.g. Home Depot(NYSE:HD)) and higher-quality brick-and-mortar real estate (e.g. Simon Property Group(NYSE:SPG)) will continue to do well. It is nevertheless relatively clear that, overall, e-commerce will continue to gain market share versus brick-and-mortar, with lower-quality traditional retailers taking the majority of the hit. Some goods are just very easily bought online, e.g. everyday clothes, books, etc. and online retailers should continue to make gains in these areas. On top of that, the overall consumer market continues to grow in both the US and internationally, which benefits online retailers as well.\nAmazon and Coupang also have the ability to boost their growth by expanding into additional markets, either geographically, or by building out new businesses. Amazon has very successfully done so and has become a major retailer not only in the US, but in many additional markets on top of that, and Amazon has also successfully built out a high-growth cloud computing business and is becoming a major player in online advertising.\nCoupang, as a much smaller and younger company, has not had the ability to expand its business as much as Amazon yet. Still, the Korean online retailer has managed to grow its business at a highly attractive pace, and one might even say that Coupang has outperformed Amazon in its home market South Korea. The company's success can be attributed to a smart and customer-focused approach that includesDawn Delivery, a service that allows customers to order before midnight and receiving their order before 7 am the next day. Coupang also has reduced cardboard packaging significantly relative to how other online retailers operate, a move that resonates well with environmentally conscious customers. Through these measures and others, Coupang has been able to deliver rapid revenue growth in the recent past, which includes a massive 75% revenue increase during the most recent quarter. Amazon grew its revenue by 44% in the most recent quarter, although it should be noted that Amazon is growing from a much larger base. The law of large numbers means that Amazon, due to its already very large size, can't grow at the rapid rates Coupang is currently seeing any longer, and the fact that Amazon is, despite its size, still growing at an attractive 40%+ pace is testament to its strong business model.\nCoupang is the higher-growth company today, and one can expect that this will remain the case in the foreseeable future, with the smaller size being a key factor for that -- growing revenue from $20 billion to $40 billion is easier than growing revenue from $500 billion to $1 trillion. Coupang is, however, unlike Amazon, not profitable yet, which may result in share count dilution as Coupang could do a secondary offering to access additional capital. Coupang is also less diversified than Amazon, both geographically and when it comes to different industries. Amazon, with its marketing and cloud computing platforms, is more of a diversified company than Coupang, which is fully reliant on e-commerce.\nI don't think that there is a clear 'better buy' here, as both companies have their pros and cons. Coupang is growing faster and could double or triple its revenue more easily, but Amazon could be called the more dominant, wider-moat, more diversified pick that is also profitable and generates huge cash flows already.\nLooking at valuations, we can't value Coupang based on profits, as those are not existent yet. Taking a look at the two companies' respective market capitalizations relative to the revenues that they generate, we get the following picture:\nData by YCharts\nWe see that both companies trade around 3.5x forward revenue, thus from a valuation perspective, there is no major difference here, except for the fact that AMZN is, unlike CPNG, generating profits with these revenues. One could thus argue that AMZN's revenues are of a higher quality compared to the revenues generated by CPNG.\nComparing the P/S valuations of AMZN and CPNG trade at compared to some other online retailers, both companies do seem relatively inexpensive:\nData by YCharts\nMany other online retailers trade at significantly higher sales multiples, including Shopify(NYSE:SHOP), which seems ultra-expensive at more than 40x forward. In Shopify's defense, one can argue that its more \"techy\" business deserves a higher sales multiple compared to the pure retailers. But even when one compares AMZN and CPNG to more similar companies such as Pinduoduo(NASDAQ:PDD)or MercadoLibre(NASDAQ:MELI), both AMZN and CPNG do seem inexpensive.\nIs Coupang Or Amazon Stock The Better Buy?\nAs shown above, both companies do have their advantages, and which company you ultimately will prefer depends on what things you value the most when choosing an investment. Due to its larger scale, profitability, and strong diversification AMZN seems like the lower-risk choice to me, and its dominant position in its home market and the highly attractive cloud computing market position it well for the future, I believe. Coupang is not unattractive, either, however, and its higher revenue growth rate, coupled with an inexpensive sales multiple, could allow for considerable long-term upside.\nNeither company is risk-less, and due to the online retailers' exposure to consumer spending, both companies could be exposed to an economic downturn -- which I don't see as likely in the foreseeable future, however. On top of that, regulation seems like a possible risk, which may be more pronounced for Amazon due to its much larger size. On the other hand, Amazon is less dependent on a single geographic market, which results in some built-in diversification relative to the more focused Coupang.\nDepending on whether you want a diversified giant that is entrenched in many different markets, or whether you prefer a pure-play on consumers in South Korea, Amazon and/or Coupang could both be solid choices for your portfolio. I personally am long Amazon and see this stock delivering solid gains in the long run, even though shares aren't especially cheap at 67x this year's profits.\nCoupang is definitely an interesting choice as well, however, especially when we consider that its shares do trade at a massive discount relative to other regionally-focused mid-sized online retailers such as MercadoLibre and Pinduoduo.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"CPNG":0.9,"AMZN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2550,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":143220865,"gmtCreate":1625796749457,"gmtModify":1703748735408,"author":{"id":"3570714497701433","authorId":"3570714497701433","name":"YFN","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/259fa239267ecbaa9843d8c2f2bb541a","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3570714497701433","idStr":"3570714497701433"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good...","listText":"Good...","text":"Good...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/143220865","repostId":"2150232467","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3176,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":151729066,"gmtCreate":1625107950155,"gmtModify":1703736315250,"author":{"id":"3570714497701433","authorId":"3570714497701433","name":"YFN","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/259fa239267ecbaa9843d8c2f2bb541a","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3570714497701433","idStr":"3570714497701433"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Law of gravity... what goes up must come down","listText":"Law of gravity... what goes up must come down","text":"Law of gravity... what goes up must come down","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/151729066","repostId":"2147818634","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2439,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3570751249933438","authorId":"3570751249933438","name":"edgetrader","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7d0e920d94a7891f4c6393f3e5510ccc","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3570751249933438","idStr":"3570751249933438"},"content":"When come down?","text":"When come down?","html":"When come down?"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":153591555,"gmtCreate":1625031890177,"gmtModify":1703850568339,"author":{"id":"3570714497701433","authorId":"3570714497701433","name":"YFN","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/259fa239267ecbaa9843d8c2f2bb541a","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3570714497701433","idStr":"3570714497701433"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Updated thinking ...&nbsp;Crypto shall be part of the investment portfolio&nbsp;","listText":"Updated thinking ...&nbsp;Crypto shall be part of the investment portfolio&nbsp;","text":"Updated thinking ... Crypto shall be part of the investment portfolio","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/153591555","repostId":"1153621389","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2288,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":124444576,"gmtCreate":1624785773095,"gmtModify":1703845137236,"author":{"id":"3570714497701433","authorId":"3570714497701433","name":"YFN","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/259fa239267ecbaa9843d8c2f2bb541a","crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3570714497701433","idStr":"3570714497701433"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Definitely NIO","listText":"Definitely NIO","text":"Definitely NIO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/124444576","repostId":"1137119316","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1137119316","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1624754401,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1137119316?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-27 08:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Ford Or NIO? The Final Verdict","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1137119316","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"I am comparing Ford against NIO in different categories.The comparison is intended to improve the understanding of Ford's and NIO's growth potential while highlighting differences in market position and opportunities.NIO is growing a lot faster than Ford and the high valuation may be justified.With Ford  launching a major offensive in the market for electric vehicles, Chinese EV maker NIO  will face one more rival competing for sales in the future. Which vehicle maker offers the best deal based ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>I am comparing Ford against NIO in different categories.</li>\n <li>The comparison is intended to improve the understanding of Ford's and NIO's growth potential while highlighting differences in market position and opportunities.</li>\n <li>NIO is growing a lot faster than Ford and the high valuation may be justified.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5033fa117d7852799244b8275bc1000f\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"886\"><span>peterschreiber.media/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p>With Ford (F) launching a major offensive in the market for electric vehicles, Chinese EV maker NIO (NIO) will face one more rival competing for sales in the future. Which vehicle maker offers the best deal based on market opportunity, scale, revenue model, growth prospects and valuation? I will compare Ford against NIO in each category and issue a final verdict at the end.</p>\n<p><b>Ford vs. NIO: The battle for the global electric vehicle market is heating up</b></p>\n<p>Although there is a world of difference between Ford and NIO, both companies are set to go toe-to-toe in the rapidly growing global electric vehicle market. Ford’s fleet is not yet EV-focused but this is going to change: Feeling that the EV race is heating up, Ford said it is accelerating its electrification plan by investing&nbsp;$30B into its EV manufacturing capabilities until 2025. Ford’s previous capital plan called for a $22B investment in zero-emission vehicles. Ford also set an ambitious sales goal: 40% of its global sales will be electric within the next decade and 33% of pickup truck sales. Electric vehicle sales account for just 1% of Ford's sales today. As Ford is phasing out combustion engines, it is set to evolve into an all-electric vehicle maker by 2040.</p>\n<p><b>Market opportunity</b></p>\n<p>In 2020, 3.2m electric vehicles were sold in the world which represented a small market share of just 4.2%. China, however, was responsible for buying 41% of all electric vehicles in the world in 2020. Chinese buyers purchased 1.3m electric vehicles last year and sales are set to grow fast as Beijing seeks to boost EV adoption. The second largest market for electric vehicles was Europe which accounted for 42% of global EV sales. The US is only the third-largest market for plug-in electric vehicles in the world.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b48c23b32134542f51227d9b1b612887\" tg-width=\"1083\" tg-height=\"863\"><span>(Source: Wikipedia)</span></p>\n<p>China, by far, is the fastest growing EV market in the world, although Europe is catching up fast, in part due to a legislative efforts to increase adoption of zero-emission passenger vehicles and because of massive investments in a Europe-wide charging station network. NIO is&nbsp;on the cusp of entering the European market&nbsp;in a bid to grow market share in the world’s second-largest EV market before the competition is ready.</p>\n<p>Beijing is a driver behind the electrification of the Chinese auto industry: The government wants to see a&nbsp;twenty percent share&nbsp;of electric vehicles for new car sales by 2025 which will drive EV penetration in NIO’s home market.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9871e44eaf69adb27151425887870ace\" tg-width=\"739\" tg-height=\"454\"><span>(Source:Schroders)</span></p>\n<p>Turning to growth projections.</p>\n<p>With more favorable government policies for EV makers in places like China and Europe, these markets are poised to see the fastest sales growth and the highest EV adoption rates in the world. China is not only the largest market due to population size but is also expected to outperform all other markets in the world in EV sales until 2030.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/61d19dff2f34e2d8828aca854e85d84a\" tg-width=\"825\" tg-height=\"565\"><span>(Source:McKinsey)</span></p>\n<p>Since China has a larger total market size, a higher EV adoption rate, stronger expected sales growth and a more favorable regulatory framework, the winner here would be: NIO.</p>\n<p><b>Scale and manufacturing competence</b></p>\n<p>Ford has a century’s worth of manufacturing experience. But Ford, so far, has only one all-electric vehicle in its product line-up that compares to NIO: The Mustang Mach-E SUV. In 2022, Ford will begin to sell the all-electric F-150 Lightening which builds on the success of Ford’s best-selling pick-up truck. NIO already has a stronger product catalog including the 5-seater ES6 SUV, the 5-seater coupe SUV EC6 and the ES8, a 6-seater and 7-seater full-sized SUV.</p>\n<p>Since NIO is solely focused on producing EVs and occupies a very small and defined niche, the Chinese firm has an advantage as far as EV-manufacturing expertise goes. The question is how long this advantage can last. Ford has extensive experience in building cars and can leverage a global manufacturing base to ramp up EV production faster than any niche EV maker could ever hope to achieve. This makes Ford a very serious rival not only to Tesla (TSLA) in the US, but also to NIO abroad. Ford is accelerating its electrification plans and it has the resources and the ambition to become a leader in EVs within the next decade. Ford’s proposed $30B spending on the electrification of its fleet will accelerate its transformation and turn Ford into a long term threat to other EV makers.</p>\n<p>Winner here: Ford.</p>\n<p><b>Differentiation and BaaS revenue model</b></p>\n<p>Both Ford and NIO know about the importance of differentiation in a market that will only get more competitive over time, which is why both companies are investing heavily in a related field that can break or solidify dominance in the EV market: Battery technology.</p>\n<p>Ford is&nbsp;forming a joint venture&nbsp;with South Korean battery technology company SK Innovation to secure supply of traction battery cells and array modules. The joint venture is meant to accelerate battery deliveries and will produce approximately 60 GWh annually, enough to cover 25% of Ford’s estimated annual energy demand by 2030. NIO is also investing in battery technology and has&nbsp;formed its own joint venture&nbsp;to secure battery supply.</p>\n<p>The difference to Ford is that NIO’s battery investment strategy revolves around a battery subscription model, also called “battery-as-a-service”, which creates a strong, long term revenue opportunity for the Chinese vehicle maker. Under this “BaaS” model, users who buy a NIO electric vehicle get a 70,000 RMB initial discount, equivalent to $10,800, and can sign up for a monthly subscription to rent a rechargeable 70 kWh battery. Batteries can then be exchanged at one of NIO’s battery-swapping stations which can be found in most big Chinese cities. A battery subscription costs 980 RMB monthly which is the equivalent of $150.</p>\n<p>The BaaS model has a couple of benefits for both the vehicle maker and the user: Purchasing an electric vehicle from NIO gets a lot more affordable due to the up-front discount and the subscription model ensures that users benefit from advancement in battery technology and better performance over time. Decoupling battery costs from vehicle prices creates an entirely new revenue stream on a subscription basis for NIO. Revenues from “BaaS” subscriptions could be used to increase the density of NIO’s network of charging/replacement stations. The battery subscription model also binds customers to NIO, potentially increasing customer lifetime value.</p>\n<p>Ford and NIO are primed to benefit from falling battery costs for electric vehicles as they ramp up capital allocations. As more investments flow into developing more efficient batteries, performance will go up and costs will go down which should drive EV adoption and benefit all EV makers. This is because lower battery prices make EVs more competitive to passenger vehicles with combustion engines. But since NIO is structuring a part of its business model explicitly around battery subscriptions, NIO could benefit more than Ford.</p>\n<p>Battery costs for EVs have decreased 70% since 2014, based on information provided by investment firm Schroders, and are set to decrease more this decade.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c42acb75905affe7570a2f399ea3192f\" tg-width=\"758\" tg-height=\"449\"><span>(Source: Schroders)</span></p>\n<p>The “BaaS” model is genius and could develop into a $500M a year revenue opportunity for NIO long term. Although Ford is ramping up its investments in battery technology, the winner in this category is: NIO.</p>\n<p><b>Sales growth and valuation</b></p>\n<p>Ford’s sales in May grew 4.1% Y/Y but electrified vehicle sales (including hybrids) surged 184% Y/Y as Ford sold a record 10,364 EVs/hybrids in May. Escape electrified sales and Explorer Hybrid grew sales at 125% and 132% Y/Y showing strong customer uptake. NIO delivered 6,711 vehicles last month including 3,017 ES6s, 1,412 ES8s and 2,282 EC6s. Total Y/Y delivery growth for May was 95.3%.</p>\n<p>Ford's sales are fifty-four times larger than NIO's which creates more sales growth and revaluation potential for NIO.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df5a0a393e44ed74241c5effcdd92350\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"419\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>The difference in valuation between Ford and NIO is like the difference between night and day. This is because Ford is still seen as a mature vehicle maker with expected enterprise sales growth in the low-to-mid digits, despite explosive growth in the EV category. Ford is expected to grow revenues by 33% until FY 2025 (base year: FY 2020) and NIO by 808%!</p>\n<p>Due to these differences in sales growth, NIO is the complete opposite of Ford, at least as far as valuation goes. The Chinese EV-maker is expected to see sales and delivery growth close to 100% this year and since NIO is only dealing in EVs, NIO gets a much higher market-cap-to-sales ratio than Ford.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/817605c6b1e82c03d0473ea570d32b8f\" tg-width=\"506\" tg-height=\"406\"><span>(Source: Author)</span></p>\n<p><b>NIO has larger risks...</b></p>\n<p>NIO is the more risky venture, but also the one that offers the most promise. Government policy favors EV-makers like NIO. The potential for total global sales growth is larger for NIO as it operates from a smaller revenue base compared to Ford. But there are also a few things that work against NIO. For example, recalls due to production defects would be a much bigger challenge for NIO to overcome than for Ford which can rely on a global service and distribution network. NIO’s valuation is also not without risk as an unexpected slowing of sales growth due to production setbacks would leave a much larger dent in the financials.</p>\n<p><b>Final verdict</b></p>\n<p>NIO is definitely the more “sexy” vehicle maker. Strong adoption and sales growth in China and Europe support NIO. Its super smart BaaS model which decouples vehicle purchase prices from battery costs is genius. You pay a high price for this growth but the market opportunity for NIO is immense.</p>\n<p>Ford’s EV sales are booming and the percentage of EV sales will increase as the vehicle maker electrifies its fleet. Ford has a lot of potential in the EV market but since EV sales are still a relatively low percentage of total sales, it will take a long time for Ford to complete its transformation.</p>\n<p>If you believe in the potential of the global EV market, buy NIO. If you believe in the potential of the global EV market and don’t like much risk, buy Ford.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ford Or NIO? 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The Final Verdict\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-27 08:40 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4436600-ford-or-nio-the-final-verdict><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nI am comparing Ford against NIO in different categories.\nThe comparison is intended to improve the understanding of Ford's and NIO's growth potential while highlighting differences in market ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4436600-ford-or-nio-the-final-verdict\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","F":"福特汽车"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4436600-ford-or-nio-the-final-verdict","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1137119316","content_text":"Summary\n\nI am comparing Ford against NIO in different categories.\nThe comparison is intended to improve the understanding of Ford's and NIO's growth potential while highlighting differences in market position and opportunities.\nNIO is growing a lot faster than Ford and the high valuation may be justified.\n\npeterschreiber.media/iStock via Getty Images\nWith Ford (F) launching a major offensive in the market for electric vehicles, Chinese EV maker NIO (NIO) will face one more rival competing for sales in the future. Which vehicle maker offers the best deal based on market opportunity, scale, revenue model, growth prospects and valuation? I will compare Ford against NIO in each category and issue a final verdict at the end.\nFord vs. NIO: The battle for the global electric vehicle market is heating up\nAlthough there is a world of difference between Ford and NIO, both companies are set to go toe-to-toe in the rapidly growing global electric vehicle market. Ford’s fleet is not yet EV-focused but this is going to change: Feeling that the EV race is heating up, Ford said it is accelerating its electrification plan by investing $30B into its EV manufacturing capabilities until 2025. Ford’s previous capital plan called for a $22B investment in zero-emission vehicles. Ford also set an ambitious sales goal: 40% of its global sales will be electric within the next decade and 33% of pickup truck sales. Electric vehicle sales account for just 1% of Ford's sales today. As Ford is phasing out combustion engines, it is set to evolve into an all-electric vehicle maker by 2040.\nMarket opportunity\nIn 2020, 3.2m electric vehicles were sold in the world which represented a small market share of just 4.2%. China, however, was responsible for buying 41% of all electric vehicles in the world in 2020. Chinese buyers purchased 1.3m electric vehicles last year and sales are set to grow fast as Beijing seeks to boost EV adoption. The second largest market for electric vehicles was Europe which accounted for 42% of global EV sales. The US is only the third-largest market for plug-in electric vehicles in the world.\n(Source: Wikipedia)\nChina, by far, is the fastest growing EV market in the world, although Europe is catching up fast, in part due to a legislative efforts to increase adoption of zero-emission passenger vehicles and because of massive investments in a Europe-wide charging station network. NIO is on the cusp of entering the European market in a bid to grow market share in the world’s second-largest EV market before the competition is ready.\nBeijing is a driver behind the electrification of the Chinese auto industry: The government wants to see a twenty percent share of electric vehicles for new car sales by 2025 which will drive EV penetration in NIO’s home market.\n(Source:Schroders)\nTurning to growth projections.\nWith more favorable government policies for EV makers in places like China and Europe, these markets are poised to see the fastest sales growth and the highest EV adoption rates in the world. China is not only the largest market due to population size but is also expected to outperform all other markets in the world in EV sales until 2030.\n(Source:McKinsey)\nSince China has a larger total market size, a higher EV adoption rate, stronger expected sales growth and a more favorable regulatory framework, the winner here would be: NIO.\nScale and manufacturing competence\nFord has a century’s worth of manufacturing experience. But Ford, so far, has only one all-electric vehicle in its product line-up that compares to NIO: The Mustang Mach-E SUV. In 2022, Ford will begin to sell the all-electric F-150 Lightening which builds on the success of Ford’s best-selling pick-up truck. NIO already has a stronger product catalog including the 5-seater ES6 SUV, the 5-seater coupe SUV EC6 and the ES8, a 6-seater and 7-seater full-sized SUV.\nSince NIO is solely focused on producing EVs and occupies a very small and defined niche, the Chinese firm has an advantage as far as EV-manufacturing expertise goes. The question is how long this advantage can last. Ford has extensive experience in building cars and can leverage a global manufacturing base to ramp up EV production faster than any niche EV maker could ever hope to achieve. This makes Ford a very serious rival not only to Tesla (TSLA) in the US, but also to NIO abroad. Ford is accelerating its electrification plans and it has the resources and the ambition to become a leader in EVs within the next decade. Ford’s proposed $30B spending on the electrification of its fleet will accelerate its transformation and turn Ford into a long term threat to other EV makers.\nWinner here: Ford.\nDifferentiation and BaaS revenue model\nBoth Ford and NIO know about the importance of differentiation in a market that will only get more competitive over time, which is why both companies are investing heavily in a related field that can break or solidify dominance in the EV market: Battery technology.\nFord is forming a joint venture with South Korean battery technology company SK Innovation to secure supply of traction battery cells and array modules. The joint venture is meant to accelerate battery deliveries and will produce approximately 60 GWh annually, enough to cover 25% of Ford’s estimated annual energy demand by 2030. NIO is also investing in battery technology and has formed its own joint venture to secure battery supply.\nThe difference to Ford is that NIO’s battery investment strategy revolves around a battery subscription model, also called “battery-as-a-service”, which creates a strong, long term revenue opportunity for the Chinese vehicle maker. Under this “BaaS” model, users who buy a NIO electric vehicle get a 70,000 RMB initial discount, equivalent to $10,800, and can sign up for a monthly subscription to rent a rechargeable 70 kWh battery. Batteries can then be exchanged at one of NIO’s battery-swapping stations which can be found in most big Chinese cities. A battery subscription costs 980 RMB monthly which is the equivalent of $150.\nThe BaaS model has a couple of benefits for both the vehicle maker and the user: Purchasing an electric vehicle from NIO gets a lot more affordable due to the up-front discount and the subscription model ensures that users benefit from advancement in battery technology and better performance over time. Decoupling battery costs from vehicle prices creates an entirely new revenue stream on a subscription basis for NIO. Revenues from “BaaS” subscriptions could be used to increase the density of NIO’s network of charging/replacement stations. The battery subscription model also binds customers to NIO, potentially increasing customer lifetime value.\nFord and NIO are primed to benefit from falling battery costs for electric vehicles as they ramp up capital allocations. As more investments flow into developing more efficient batteries, performance will go up and costs will go down which should drive EV adoption and benefit all EV makers. This is because lower battery prices make EVs more competitive to passenger vehicles with combustion engines. But since NIO is structuring a part of its business model explicitly around battery subscriptions, NIO could benefit more than Ford.\nBattery costs for EVs have decreased 70% since 2014, based on information provided by investment firm Schroders, and are set to decrease more this decade.\n(Source: Schroders)\nThe “BaaS” model is genius and could develop into a $500M a year revenue opportunity for NIO long term. Although Ford is ramping up its investments in battery technology, the winner in this category is: NIO.\nSales growth and valuation\nFord’s sales in May grew 4.1% Y/Y but electrified vehicle sales (including hybrids) surged 184% Y/Y as Ford sold a record 10,364 EVs/hybrids in May. Escape electrified sales and Explorer Hybrid grew sales at 125% and 132% Y/Y showing strong customer uptake. NIO delivered 6,711 vehicles last month including 3,017 ES6s, 1,412 ES8s and 2,282 EC6s. Total Y/Y delivery growth for May was 95.3%.\nFord's sales are fifty-four times larger than NIO's which creates more sales growth and revaluation potential for NIO.\nData by YCharts\nThe difference in valuation between Ford and NIO is like the difference between night and day. This is because Ford is still seen as a mature vehicle maker with expected enterprise sales growth in the low-to-mid digits, despite explosive growth in the EV category. Ford is expected to grow revenues by 33% until FY 2025 (base year: FY 2020) and NIO by 808%!\nDue to these differences in sales growth, NIO is the complete opposite of Ford, at least as far as valuation goes. The Chinese EV-maker is expected to see sales and delivery growth close to 100% this year and since NIO is only dealing in EVs, NIO gets a much higher market-cap-to-sales ratio than Ford.\n(Source: Author)\nNIO has larger risks...\nNIO is the more risky venture, but also the one that offers the most promise. Government policy favors EV-makers like NIO. The potential for total global sales growth is larger for NIO as it operates from a smaller revenue base compared to Ford. But there are also a few things that work against NIO. For example, recalls due to production defects would be a much bigger challenge for NIO to overcome than for Ford which can rely on a global service and distribution network. NIO’s valuation is also not without risk as an unexpected slowing of sales growth due to production setbacks would leave a much larger dent in the financials.\nFinal verdict\nNIO is definitely the more “sexy” vehicle maker. Strong adoption and sales growth in China and Europe support NIO. Its super smart BaaS model which decouples vehicle purchase prices from battery costs is genius. You pay a high price for this growth but the market opportunity for NIO is immense.\nFord’s EV sales are booming and the percentage of EV sales will increase as the vehicle maker electrifies its fleet. Ford has a lot of potential in the EV market but since EV sales are still a relatively low percentage of total sales, it will take a long time for Ford to complete its transformation.\nIf you believe in the potential of the global EV market, buy NIO. 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