Profile - To The Moon

cocogoat

Posts · 68Posts · 68
Following · 0Following · 0
Followers · 0Followers · 0

- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-10-12
  This fella keeps saying penny stock levels but he isnt shorting it... What a loser!
  Sorry, this post has been deleted
  4.35K 1
  4
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-10-07
  Ok noted
  Apple: Why I Bought More At $140
  SummaryI placed a limit buy order for Apple at $140 in September. The order was triggered last Frida
  Apple: Why I Bought More At $140
  3.71K 1
  5
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-08-03
  $GameStop(GME)$ why tgr show stock split instead of dividend...
  3.15K Comment
  Like
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-06-22
  PRESS ON BOIS WE R HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS
  Sorry, this post has been deleted
  3.11K Comment
  3
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-21
  Below $85
  2.71K Comment
  Like
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-12
  $GameStop(GME)$ someone got margin called? Hehe wait till they ALL get margin calls..
  3.97K Comment
  4
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-10
  $GameStop(GME)$ i bought more at $89
  4.19K Comment
  4
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-04
  $GameStop(GME)$ may the fourth be with u
  3.20K Comment
  3
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-03
  $GameStop(GME)$i am very tempted to sell gamestop shares......For $69,420 each.
  3.35K Comment
  2
  Share
  Report
- cocogoatcocogoat
  ·2022-05-03
  DEEP DISCOUNTS ON THE MENU!?! LFG CANT WAIT TO LOAD UP
  There’s Little Reason to Hold GameStop Stock Going Into the Summer
  Next month's earnings are another factor that could determine how GME stock performs this summerSour
  There’s Little Reason to Hold GameStop Stock Going Into the Summer
  2.66K Comment
  3
  Share
  Report

Most Discussed

{"i18n":{"language":"en_US"},"isCurrentUser":false,"userPageInfo":{"id":"3573637775957146","uuid":"3573637775957146","gmtCreate":1610543782880,"gmtModify":1610591440049,"name":"cocogoat","pinyin":"cocogoat","introduction":"","introductionEn":null,"signature":"","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","hat":null,"hatId":null,"hatName":null,"vip":1,"status":2,"fanSize":7,"headSize":6,"tweetSize":68,"questionSize":0,"limitLevel":999,"accountStatus":4,"level":{"id":3,"name":"书生虎","nameTw":"書生虎","represent":"努力向上","factor":"发布10条非转发主帖,其中5条获得他人回复或点赞","iconColor":"3C9E83","bgColor":"A2F1D9"},"themeCounts":0,"badgeCounts":0,"badges":[],"moderator":false,"superModerator":false,"manageSymbols":null,"badgeLevel":null,"boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"favoriteSize":0,"symbols":null,"coverImage":null,"realNameVerified":"success","userBadges":[{"badgeId":"1026c425416b44e0aac28c11a0848493-3","templateUuid":"1026c425416b44e0aac28c11a0848493","name":" Tiger Idol","description":"Join the tiger community for 1500 days","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b40ae7da5bf081a1c84df14bf9e6367","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f160eceddd7c284a8e1136557615cfad","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11792805c468334a9b31c39f95a41c6a","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2025.02.22","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1001},{"badgeId":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789-1","templateUuid":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789","name":"Knowledgeable Investor","description":"Traded more than 10 stocks","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e74cc24115c4fbae6154ec1b1041bf47","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d48265cbfd97c57f9048db29f22227b0","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76c6d6898b073c77e1c537ebe9ac1c57","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1102},{"badgeId":"a83d7582f45846ffbccbce770ce65d84-1","templateUuid":"a83d7582f45846ffbccbce770ce65d84","name":"Real Trader","description":"Completed a transaction","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e08a1cc2087a1de93402c2c290fa65b","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4504a6397ce1137932d56e5f4ce27166","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4b22c79415b4cd6e3d8ebc4a0fa32604","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100},{"badgeId":"972123088c9646f7b6091ae0662215be-1","templateUuid":"972123088c9646f7b6091ae0662215be","name":"Elite Trader","description":"Total number of securities or futures transactions reached 30","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ab0f87127c854ce3191a752d57b46edc","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9835ce48b8c8743566d344ac7a7ba8c","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76754b53ce7a90019f132c1d2fbc698f","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":"60.03%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100}],"userBadgeCount":4,"currentWearingBadge":null,"individualDisplayBadges":null,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"location":null,"starInvestorFollowerNum":0,"starInvestorFlag":false,"starInvestorOrderShareNum":0,"subscribeStarInvestorNum":0,"ror":null,"winRationPercentage":null,"showRor":false,"investmentPhilosophy":null,"starInvestorSubscribeFlag":false},"page":1,"watchlist":null,"tweetList":[{"id":9917557039,"gmtCreate":1665547098022,"gmtModify":1676537625395,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This fella keeps saying penny stock levels but he isnt shorting it... What a loser!&nbsp;","listText":"This fella keeps saying penny stock levels but he isnt shorting it... What a loser!&nbsp;","text":"This fella keeps saying penny stock levels but he isnt shorting it... What a loser!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9917557039","repostId":"1141898018","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4354,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9914069774,"gmtCreate":1665134235398,"gmtModify":1676537562727,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok noted","listText":"Ok noted","text":"Ok noted","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9914069774","repostId":"2273803113","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2273803113","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1665131530,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2273803113?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-10-07 16:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Apple: Why I Bought More At $140","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2273803113","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryI placed a limit buy order for Apple at $140 in September. The order was triggered last Frida","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>I placed a limit buy order for Apple at $140 in September. The order was triggered last Friday thanks to market volatility, and now I own more shares.</li><li>There is no doubt that the business faces many short-term challenges.</li><li>However, as Buffett commented, if you have to closely follow the day-to-day stuff, you should not own it in the first place.</li><li>This wisdom is true for Apple more than anything else in my mind.</li><li>Moreover, the market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential and creates a mispricing.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/14d264625dbfe4fe0a4446b0ae1cf349\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"720\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Seremin</span></p><h2>Investment thesis</h2><p>During the last week of September (September 25 to be exact), I sent an alert to our marketplace members. The alert informed them that I placed a limit buy order for Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) at $140 and mythought process (the stock price then was about $150.5). A price of $140 corresponds to about 22x of its FW PE. To me, any valuation near 20x is very attractive for a stock with ROCE (return on capital employed) near 100% like AAPL. At about 100% ROCE, a 5% investment rate would provide 5% organic real growth rates (i.e., before inflation adjustments). And a 22x PE would provide about 5% owners earnings yield, leading to a total return close to double digits. For a stock like AAPL, I am always happy to buy/add when the total annual return is close to 10% or above. A 10% return is healthy enough to start with. Once you adjust for the risks (and I consider the risks from AAPL similar to treasury bonds), a 10% annual return is almost 3x of what you can get from bonds in the long term.</p><p>Also, to put things under historical perspective, a valuation around 22x is also below the historical average of 24.7x in recent years by about 10% (11% to be exact), leaving a comfortable margin of safety. And also, bear in mind that the stock was so obviously before 2021 and those levels are outliers in my mind. So, the historical average of 24.75x is already biased.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a0abaa433019690a8212d9df8d71726d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"369\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Seeking Alpha data</span></p><p>All told, thanks to market volatility, the stock price dipped below $140 a few days later on Sept 30. The order is triggered, and now I own more AAPL shares. I of course do not want to pretend that I have any idea that its price would actually dip below $140 or not. However, I do have a good sense of its intrinsic value and the magnitude of market gyrations. And as a long-term and patient investor, I do know that 22x PE is a good deal for a stock like AAPL.</p><h2>Near-term challenges</h2><p>There is no shortage of external challenges in the near term. And these challenges can be substantial, too. They will continue to weigh on performance over the near term. These challenges include new variants of COVID-19, the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, unfavorable currency exchange rates, and high inflation and rising interest rates. In particular, you can see the effects that these headwinds have exerted on its margins. Over the past few quarters, its gross margin shrank by more than 200 basis points from a peak of 43.76% to 41.04%. Net profit margin shrank even more, by more than 450 basis points from a peak of 27.9% to 23.4%. China, its key market, had to lock down several of its key cities in the H1 of the year due to COVID-19, and the ongoing pandemic situation probably would lead to more lockdowns, which have impacted its sales and production and would very likely continue to in the near future.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3f2a9e2475e37539082fb89230bb995b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"432\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Seeking Alpha data</span></p><h2>AAPL and Buffettism</h2><p>However, as Buffett commented, if you have to closely follow the day-to-day stuff of a stock, you should not own it in the first place. He was once asked about his AAPL position during a Yahoo! Finance interview. You can see the full interview here, full of typical Buffett-style wisdom and highly recommended. The following is an excerpt and the highlights are added by me.</p><blockquote><i>Yahoo Finance: how closely do you follow the company? You know, people are concerned they really have not introduced any new products.</i></blockquote><blockquote><i>Buffett:</i> <i><b>Well, if you have to closely follow the company, you should not own it in the first place. If you buy a business, say you buy a farm, do you go up and look every couple of weeks to see how far the corn has grown up?</b></i> <i>Do you worry too much about whether somebody says this year is going to be a year of low corn prices because exports are being affected or something? You know, it does not grow faster if I go and stare at it…</i><i><b>AlthoughI do care over the years that it is well tended to in terms of rotating crops. And I hope yields get better.</b></i></blockquote><p>In my mind, this wisdom is truer for Apple than anything else. A high-yield farm is what exactly it is. As a high-yield farm, investors should have the perspective to overlook its daily (or even yearly) noises and focus on the long term, as detailed next.</p><h2>Business outlook and projected returns</h2><p>I am optimistic about its future. The company has displayed remarkable resilience in the face of the difficult operating backdrop in the past. And I am certain that this time is no different. The inflation or drag from foreign exchange rates may worsen in the near term. But remember, Buffett&#39;s other wisdom is<i>not</i>to pick stocks based on macroeconomic parameters - which are totally unpredictable and out of anyone&#39;s control.</p><p>Altogether, consensus estimates look for share net to come in around $6.46 in 2023. And again, at a price of $140, the PE would be about 22x. Based on the consensus estimates, the growth rate would be about 4.6% CAGR in the next few years, which agrees with my back-of-envelope estimate closely. As aforementioned, at about 100% ROCE, a 5% investment rate would provide 5% organic real growth rates.</p><p>All told, a 22x entry PE, combined with a ~5% growth rate, should provide about 10% total return for a long-term business owner.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6d4adcc41419bcccde9ab540b89f003c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"260\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Seeking Alpha data</span></p><p>Notably, services-related revenues should continue to advance and represent a strong engine for future growth. In this sense, AAPL is transitioning (or you can argue it has successfully transitioned already) from a hardware business into a subscription-based SaaS business.</p><p>According to this report, it added ~30 million paid subscriptions in 2022 alone. Total revenues from services have been growing steadily and rapidly over the years and have reached $19.8 billion. In Q2 2022. Compared to $17.0 billion raked in from services during Q2 2021, this represented an annual growth rate of 16.5%, far outpacing the growth rates of its total revenue. Broadening the timeframe a bit, the growth in its revenues from services has grown more than 230% since 2017, also far outpacing the growth of its product sales (which increased by about 160%). In its latest earnings report, Tim Cook reported a mind-boggling total of 816 million paid subscriptions across its various services ranging from Apple Music, iCloud, and Apple TV+.</p><p>Going forward, I see such a large user base to further grow given Apple&#39;s popularity and premium status. In my view, the market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential. As seen from the chart below, it is trading at a sizeable discount relative to other more &#34;standard&#34; SaaS stocks. To wit, in terms of FY1 PE, it is trading slightly below Microsoft Corporation by about 4%, about 20% below Intuit Inc, and more than 27% below Salesforce Inc.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/267e4208372cf220c56b8cfcab38cd7c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"206\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Seeking Alpha data</span></p><h2>Risks and final thoughts</h2><p>To recap, there is no doubt that the business faces many short-term challenges. These challenges include the veritable list of the COVID-19 pandemic, the ongoing Russian/Ukraine situation, currency exchange rates, high inflation, and global supply chain disruptions. It also faces its own unique challenges such as margin pressure, cost control, and disruptions in its key China market.</p><p>However, the whole point of owning a stock like AAPL is that you do not have to worry about the quarterly noises. If you do, you defeat the purpose completely and should not own it in the first place. To me, any valuation near 20x is very attractive for a stock with ROCE and financial strength like AAPL. A ~20x PE provides about 5% owner&#39;s earnings yield. And an ROCE near 100% easily leads to 5% growth rates with minimal reinvestments, resulting in a double-digit return potential already.</p><p>Finally, specific to AAPL, the revenues and growth composition are also shifting to service and subscription, further augmenting its stickiness and profitability. The market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential and most likely will regret it.</p><p><i>This article is written by Envision Research for reference only. Please note the risks.</i></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Apple: Why I Bought More At $140</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nApple: Why I Bought More At $140\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-07 16:32 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4544974-apple-why-i-bought-more-140><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryI placed a limit buy order for Apple at $140 in September. The order was triggered last Friday thanks to market volatility, and now I own more shares.There is no doubt that the business faces ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4544974-apple-why-i-bought-more-140\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4544974-apple-why-i-bought-more-140","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2273803113","content_text":"SummaryI placed a limit buy order for Apple at $140 in September. The order was triggered last Friday thanks to market volatility, and now I own more shares.There is no doubt that the business faces many short-term challenges.However, as Buffett commented, if you have to closely follow the day-to-day stuff, you should not own it in the first place.This wisdom is true for Apple more than anything else in my mind.Moreover, the market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential and creates a mispricing.SereminInvestment thesisDuring the last week of September (September 25 to be exact), I sent an alert to our marketplace members. The alert informed them that I placed a limit buy order for Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) at $140 and mythought process (the stock price then was about $150.5). A price of $140 corresponds to about 22x of its FW PE. To me, any valuation near 20x is very attractive for a stock with ROCE (return on capital employed) near 100% like AAPL. At about 100% ROCE, a 5% investment rate would provide 5% organic real growth rates (i.e., before inflation adjustments). And a 22x PE would provide about 5% owners earnings yield, leading to a total return close to double digits. For a stock like AAPL, I am always happy to buy/add when the total annual return is close to 10% or above. A 10% return is healthy enough to start with. Once you adjust for the risks (and I consider the risks from AAPL similar to treasury bonds), a 10% annual return is almost 3x of what you can get from bonds in the long term.Also, to put things under historical perspective, a valuation around 22x is also below the historical average of 24.7x in recent years by about 10% (11% to be exact), leaving a comfortable margin of safety. And also, bear in mind that the stock was so obviously before 2021 and those levels are outliers in my mind. So, the historical average of 24.75x is already biased.Source: Seeking Alpha dataAll told, thanks to market volatility, the stock price dipped below $140 a few days later on Sept 30. The order is triggered, and now I own more AAPL shares. I of course do not want to pretend that I have any idea that its price would actually dip below $140 or not. However, I do have a good sense of its intrinsic value and the magnitude of market gyrations. And as a long-term and patient investor, I do know that 22x PE is a good deal for a stock like AAPL.Near-term challengesThere is no shortage of external challenges in the near term. And these challenges can be substantial, too. They will continue to weigh on performance over the near term. These challenges include new variants of COVID-19, the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, unfavorable currency exchange rates, and high inflation and rising interest rates. In particular, you can see the effects that these headwinds have exerted on its margins. Over the past few quarters, its gross margin shrank by more than 200 basis points from a peak of 43.76% to 41.04%. Net profit margin shrank even more, by more than 450 basis points from a peak of 27.9% to 23.4%. China, its key market, had to lock down several of its key cities in the H1 of the year due to COVID-19, and the ongoing pandemic situation probably would lead to more lockdowns, which have impacted its sales and production and would very likely continue to in the near future.Source: Seeking Alpha dataAAPL and BuffettismHowever, as Buffett commented, if you have to closely follow the day-to-day stuff of a stock, you should not own it in the first place. He was once asked about his AAPL position during a Yahoo! Finance interview. You can see the full interview here, full of typical Buffett-style wisdom and highly recommended. The following is an excerpt and the highlights are added by me.Yahoo Finance: how closely do you follow the company? You know, people are concerned they really have not introduced any new products.Buffett: Well, if you have to closely follow the company, you should not own it in the first place. If you buy a business, say you buy a farm, do you go up and look every couple of weeks to see how far the corn has grown up? Do you worry too much about whether somebody says this year is going to be a year of low corn prices because exports are being affected or something? You know, it does not grow faster if I go and stare at it…AlthoughI do care over the years that it is well tended to in terms of rotating crops. And I hope yields get better.In my mind, this wisdom is truer for Apple than anything else. A high-yield farm is what exactly it is. As a high-yield farm, investors should have the perspective to overlook its daily (or even yearly) noises and focus on the long term, as detailed next.Business outlook and projected returnsI am optimistic about its future. The company has displayed remarkable resilience in the face of the difficult operating backdrop in the past. And I am certain that this time is no different. The inflation or drag from foreign exchange rates may worsen in the near term. But remember, Buffett's other wisdom isnotto pick stocks based on macroeconomic parameters - which are totally unpredictable and out of anyone's control.Altogether, consensus estimates look for share net to come in around $6.46 in 2023. And again, at a price of $140, the PE would be about 22x. Based on the consensus estimates, the growth rate would be about 4.6% CAGR in the next few years, which agrees with my back-of-envelope estimate closely. As aforementioned, at about 100% ROCE, a 5% investment rate would provide 5% organic real growth rates.All told, a 22x entry PE, combined with a ~5% growth rate, should provide about 10% total return for a long-term business owner.Source: Seeking Alpha dataNotably, services-related revenues should continue to advance and represent a strong engine for future growth. In this sense, AAPL is transitioning (or you can argue it has successfully transitioned already) from a hardware business into a subscription-based SaaS business.According to this report, it added ~30 million paid subscriptions in 2022 alone. Total revenues from services have been growing steadily and rapidly over the years and have reached $19.8 billion. In Q2 2022. Compared to $17.0 billion raked in from services during Q2 2021, this represented an annual growth rate of 16.5%, far outpacing the growth rates of its total revenue. Broadening the timeframe a bit, the growth in its revenues from services has grown more than 230% since 2017, also far outpacing the growth of its product sales (which increased by about 160%). In its latest earnings report, Tim Cook reported a mind-boggling total of 816 million paid subscriptions across its various services ranging from Apple Music, iCloud, and Apple TV+.Going forward, I see such a large user base to further grow given Apple's popularity and premium status. In my view, the market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential. As seen from the chart below, it is trading at a sizeable discount relative to other more \"standard\" SaaS stocks. To wit, in terms of FY1 PE, it is trading slightly below Microsoft Corporation by about 4%, about 20% below Intuit Inc, and more than 27% below Salesforce Inc.Source: Seeking Alpha dataRisks and final thoughtsTo recap, there is no doubt that the business faces many short-term challenges. These challenges include the veritable list of the COVID-19 pandemic, the ongoing Russian/Ukraine situation, currency exchange rates, high inflation, and global supply chain disruptions. It also faces its own unique challenges such as margin pressure, cost control, and disruptions in its key China market.However, the whole point of owning a stock like AAPL is that you do not have to worry about the quarterly noises. If you do, you defeat the purpose completely and should not own it in the first place. To me, any valuation near 20x is very attractive for a stock with ROCE and financial strength like AAPL. A ~20x PE provides about 5% owner's earnings yield. And an ROCE near 100% easily leads to 5% growth rates with minimal reinvestments, resulting in a double-digit return potential already.Finally, specific to AAPL, the revenues and growth composition are also shifting to service and subscription, further augmenting its stickiness and profitability. The market underestimates (or misunderstands) its SaaS potential and most likely will regret it.This article is written by Envision Research for reference only. Please note the risks.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AAPL":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3708,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9906020500,"gmtCreate":1659457500604,"gmtModify":1705980551451,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;why tgr show stock split instead of dividend...&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;why tgr show stock split instead of dividend...&nbsp;","text":"$GameStop(GME)$ why tgr show stock split instead of dividend...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9906020500","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3147,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9043318084,"gmtCreate":1655871020748,"gmtModify":1676535723025,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"PRESS ON BOIS WE R HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS&nbsp;","listText":"PRESS ON BOIS WE R HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS&nbsp;","text":"PRESS ON BOIS WE R HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9043318084","repostId":"1102644103","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3114,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9021248932,"gmtCreate":1653065012526,"gmtModify":1676535217808,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Below $85","listText":"Below $85","text":"Below $85","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9021248932","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2713,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9064790742,"gmtCreate":1652366627286,"gmtModify":1676535086278,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;someone got margin called? Hehe wait till they ALL get margin calls..&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;someone got margin called? Hehe wait till they ALL get margin calls..&nbsp;","text":"$GameStop(GME)$ someone got margin called? Hehe wait till they ALL get margin calls..","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9064790742","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3967,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9065282786,"gmtCreate":1652197026345,"gmtModify":1676535050619,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;i bought more at $89","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;i bought more at $89","text":"$GameStop(GME)$ i bought more at $89","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9065282786","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4187,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9061791777,"gmtCreate":1651673907975,"gmtModify":1676534946750,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;may the fourth be with u","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>&nbsp;may the fourth be with u","text":"$GameStop(GME)$ may the fourth be with u","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9061791777","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3197,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9061382493,"gmtCreate":1651568645043,"gmtModify":1676534928595,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>i am very tempted to sell gamestop shares......For $69,420 each.","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/GME\">$GameStop(GME)$</a>i am very tempted to sell gamestop shares......For $69,420 each.","text":"$GameStop(GME)$i am very tempted to sell gamestop shares......For $69,420 each.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9061382493","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3347,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9061075943,"gmtCreate":1651546498071,"gmtModify":1676534924531,"author":{"id":"3573637775957146","authorId":"3573637775957146","name":"cocogoat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a6abbaa6464f401dda94bc10ec732ff","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573637775957146","idStr":"3573637775957146"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"DEEP DISCOUNTS ON THE MENU!?! LFG CANT WAIT TO LOAD UP","listText":"DEEP DISCOUNTS ON THE MENU!?! LFG CANT WAIT TO LOAD UP","text":"DEEP DISCOUNTS ON THE MENU!?! LFG CANT WAIT TO LOAD UP","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9061075943","repostId":"1189165977","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1189165977","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1651545977,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1189165977?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-05-03 10:46","market":"us","language":"en","title":"There’s Little Reason to Hold GameStop Stock Going Into the Summer","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1189165977","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Next month's earnings are another factor that could determine how GME stock performs this summerSour","content":"<div>\n<p>Next month's earnings are another factor that could determine how GME stock performs this summerSource: Shutterstock / mundissimaLast month, I argued that an upcoming stock split wasn’t a good reason ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/theres-little-reason-to-hold-gme-stock-going-into-the-summer/\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>There’s Little Reason to Hold GameStop Stock Going Into the Summer</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThere’s Little Reason to Hold GameStop Stock Going Into the Summer\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-03 10:46 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/05/theres-little-reason-to-hold-gme-stock-going-into-the-summer/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Next month's earnings are another factor that could determine how GME stock performs this summerSource: Shutterstock / mundissimaLast month, I argued that an upcoming stock split wasn’t a good reason ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/theres-little-reason-to-hold-gme-stock-going-into-the-summer/\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GME":"游戏驿站"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/theres-little-reason-to-hold-gme-stock-going-into-the-summer/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189165977","content_text":"Next month's earnings are another factor that could determine how GME stock performs this summerSource: Shutterstock / mundissimaLast month, I argued that an upcoming stock split wasn’t a good reason to buy GameStop (NYSE:GME). Mainly, due to the risk that external factors would outweigh any split-induced boost for GME stock. Market conditions are no longer on the side of meme stocks.The Federal Reserve continues to get more hawkish, tightening monetary policy to bring inflation under control. Speculative stocks are at risk of experiencing further downward pressure. Add in waning interest in meme stocks among retail investors, and what do you get? Most likely, lower prices ahead for the video game retailer’s shares.On top of this, there may be something else that causes the GME stock price to drop: its upcoming earnings report. Expected to report earnings in early June, the market could react negatively to the numbers. Why? As myInvestorPlacecolleague Faisal Humayun argued in April, video game sales are in a slump. With the boost from the pandemic long gone, last month video game industry sales were down 15% year-over-year.This points to the company reporting worse-than-expected top and bottom line results. A weakening video game market also bodes badly for its e-commerce plans. If it becomes more apparent that cooling video game demand will affect its digital transformation efforts? It may become harder for GameStop to sustain its triple-digit stock price.Once again, shares could fall back below the $100 per share mark. Put simply, a continued downward slide isn’t fully dependent on more market volatility. Updates from the company may end up being what knocks it down lower.With this in mind, it doesn’t appear wise to buy now, on the expectation more progress on its stock split plans spark another meme wave. I’ll admit I may not be giving the stock split catalyst its due credit. After all, as one hedge fund (Bronte Capital) that is short GameStop has remarked, “not accepting that stock splits add value is a recipe for losing money.” Also, given that the shareholder vote on the split is set to happen around the time the company next reports results, you may argue that “meme news” could outweigh more substantial news.You can point to how the stock performed in late March as evidence of this.First dipping on underwhelming earnings, shares surged on news of Chairman Ryan Cohen’s insider buying. However, it’s not a slam dunk there will be another relief rally during this time. Without one, it’s doubtful what played out in March will play out again in June. The approval of its stock split may fail to outweigh worsening fundamentals. In short, there’s little reason to hold GME stock going into the summer.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"GME":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2662,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}