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2025-02-10

I think the PC and gaming will continue to decline foreshadowing any growth in data center business, if AMD catches up, Nvidia's quarter earnings will show declining gross margins which is doubtful since Nvidia Blackwell deliveries have started. Obviously, Nvidia is priced for perfect execution quarter on quarter.

Any increase in data center business will impact gross margins for both into 2026 and 2027.

The bull case for TSMC is clearer as Arizona plant ramps up and increases capacity as any growth will be limited by TSMC. ARM, Apple, Nvidia, AMD all need TSMC, expect tariffs soon on Taiwan and buying opportunity for TSMC.

AMD's Stock Just Did Something It Hasn't Done Since 2023

AMD stock is selling off, and the company's valuation appears interesting right now.

AMD's Stock Just Did Something It Hasn't Done Since 2023

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Ping23
·2025-02-11
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AI & gaming stocks are Momentum investment.The long term investment returns are predicted to be sharp declined.
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·2025-02-11
TSMC will soon rise to all time high
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During the first few weeks of 2025, technology stocks in particular exhibited similar levels of momentum seen for much of the last two years -- thanks largely to ongoing support of the artificial intelligence (AI) narrative.However, the euphoria came to a screeching halt in late January after a Chinese start-up called DeepSeek released an AI model akin to OpenAI's ChatGPT.What took investors by surprise is that DeepSeek claims to have built its AI for far less than what OpenAI, Anthropic, Perplexity, and other AI start-ups in the U.S. are spending. Unsurprisingly, technology stocks have been precipitously falling over the last couple of weeks. In particular, chip stocks have really been rocked.Since news of DeepSeek started to pick up in late January, shares of Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) have fallen by roughly 10%. Below, I'm going to analyze some interesting trends in AMD's valuation and explore if now is a good time to buy shares of the chip leader.What did AMD stock just do?A valuation metric that I find useful is the forward price-to-earnings multiple (P/E). This ratio takes into account what Wall Street analysts are forecasting for a company's future earnings, which can help provide a glimpse into how industry experts are viewing a company's growth prospects relative to its peers.In the table below, I've summarized AMD's forward P/E and market capitalization as of quarter-end for the last year.Data source: Yahoo! FinanceAMD's forward P/E of 25.6 is essentially right in line with levels seen back in September 2023. The key difference that I see is that the company's market capitalization has grown by roughly $30 billion during this 15-month period.Image source: Getty Images.Analyzing AMD's performance in 2024The slide below breaks down AMD's revenue and operating income for 2024. In my eyes, the most important detail on this slide is the company's data center operation since this segment competes most closely with Nvidia.Image source: investor relations.Last year, AMD's data center business grew by 94% to $12.6 billion. More importantly, the company is generating significant operating leverage in this business as seen in the widening profit margins. Unfortunately, sluggish growth from AMD's gaming and embedded units is dragging on the company's overall revenue and profit levels -- and that is what I think investors are harping on.A different approach to AMD's valuationThe closeness of AMD's forward P/E between now and September 2023 implies that analysts are modeling a proportionate rise in future earnings compared to the increase in AMD's share price over the last year or so. For this reason, the company's forward P/E multiple has essentially remained flat instead of expanding.In other words, I think analysts are modeling both continued growth in the data center business and ongoing deceleration across gaming and embedded chips -- thereby balancing the company's overall earnings picture. Personally, I'm not completely aligned with such an approach. At scale, I think accelerating revenue and profits from AMD's data center business will far outweigh the other segments that aren't part of the GPU push.The way I'm looking at AMD's valuation at the moment is that the market appears to be applying a multiple of roughly 10x to the data center operating income -- hence, the value of AMD has grown by about $30 billion since September 2023.I think AMD's data center business is much more valuable than $30 billion in the long run. 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