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2025-01-28

DeepSeek sounds very much like DeepSheet. But also reminds one of Deep Fake.

Not saying DeepSeek is fake. It's real and I have tested it. But in terms of performance, frankly I don't find it earth shaking.

I think this DeepSeek panic is another Big Boys play. What really has happened? Tech has ran up so much, and this has created a FOMO environment. Perfect time for the market manipulators to make money. Off suckers like you and me.

If you like Nvidia, just don't sell. Because for all you know, they may sya tomorrow DeepSeek signs a deal to buy chips from Nvidia.

Forget about Trump banning chip sales. He is the biggest market manipulator. He is probably the one now buying Nvidia and others.

Nvidia Says DeepSeek Advances Prove Need for More of Its Chips

(Reuters) - $Nvidia(NVDA)$ on Monday said Chinese AI firm DeepSeek's advances show the usefulness of its chips for the Chinese market and that more of its chips will be needed in the future to meet de

Nvidia Says DeepSeek Advances Prove Need for More of Its Chips

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Ahmbis
·2025-01-28
Guavax , I have the same thought. Told my banker not to panic because its clearly Hedge fund and mkt manipulators. After breeching its support at 120 NVDA is now up2%
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Spudbouy
·2025-01-29
Yep avoid the noise by the dips, will take a lot more than deep seek and trump to break nvidia
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Explorer2626
·2025-01-28
Buy the dips [Miser]
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Told my banker not to panic because its clearly Hedge fund and mkt manipulators. After breeching its support at 120 NVDA is now up2% ","text":"Guavax , I have the same thought. Told my banker not to panic because its clearly Hedge fund and mkt manipulators. After breeching its support at 120 NVDA is now up2% ","html":"Guavax , I have the same thought. Told my banker not to panic because its clearly Hedge fund and mkt manipulators. 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